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Demag CD's really!?...



 
 
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Old November 8th 17, 08:29 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Graeme Wall
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On 08/11/2017 03:38, Phil Allison wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I thought CDs were made of plastic and aluminium and read by light
beams, what's there to magnetise?



** Only applies to "heavy metal" tracks on the CD.


Good point!


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Old November 8th 17, 06:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 07:30:14 +0000, RJH coalesced
the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful
comprehension...

On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I'm sure I'm going to regret this . . . why does the screenshot show
different waveforms?



"We have designed the DM1 with a second demagnetisation cycle at a
different frequency as we find this offers optimal performance. Each
demagnetizing cycle on the DM1 takes approx 10 seconds. "
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Old November 9th 17, 07:41 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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I have a demag cassette from tdk this is simply an oscillator withe a small
button cell and a microswitch behind the coil that pusheds up to the head
when play is pressed. it is designed to tail off slowly.
Not sure what frequency it uses. Could this advert merely be incorrectly
labelled?

Brian

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On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 07:30:14 +0000, RJH coalesced
the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful
comprehension...

On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I'm sure I'm going to regret this . . . why does the screenshot show
different waveforms?



"We have designed the DM1 with a second demagnetisation cycle at a
different frequency as we find this offers optimal performance. Each
demagnetizing cycle on the DM1 takes approx 10 seconds. "
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Old November 9th 17, 08:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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torstai 9. marraskuuta 2017 10.42.03 UTC+2 Brian Gaff kirjoitti:
I have a demag cassette from tdk this is simply an oscillator withe a small
button cell and a microswitch behind the coil that pusheds up to the head
when play is pressed. it is designed to tail off slowly.



Demagnetizers (proper name degaussers) for reel to reel machines
work in a similar way, but are more effective than their cassette
machine counterparts.

The principle is simple: an electric solenoid, or coil, powered
by alternating current, which produces a magnetic field the
strength of which alternately expands and contracts.

With the tape machine switched off, the degausser is gradually
moved into the close proximity of each head in turn
(but not touching it) and gradually pulled away after a few seconds.

All three heads are normally degaussed, (although the erase head
does not require it:-) It is important to degauss the tape lifter
path, and the capstan also.

I remember that one of our instructors used to wipe the end of
the degausser probe with a small piece of chamois leather,
which he then waived mysteriously in the air to allow the magnetism
to fall to the floor:-)) Strangely enough, most of the assistants
followed his example, and did the same thing.

This same instructor, a serious and rather quiet chap, had a wonderful
sense of humour. He once told an assistant in the lift, who was carrying
a box containing a 2" 24-track tape that the lift compartment,
made from sheet steel, lacked a Faraday cage, so he (the assistant)
should keep turning in an anti-clockwise direction all the time
the lift was in motion.

Some months after this, the technical director mentioned that he was
taking some visitors on a studio tour, and shared a lift with a
very courteous young fellow carry a multitrack tape, who kept turning in circles in front of them.

But back to degaussing, after which the tape heads, lift mechanism,
and capstan need to be cleaned with the proper fluid using a
cotton bud (or the same piece of chamois leather from which the
magnetism has been shaken:-)

Degaussing a CD would perhaps involve the same routine, but with a larger and higher quality of chamois leather, available separately from a specialist audio dealer at a very high price :-)

Iain

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Old November 9th 17, 10:15 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Brian Gaff wrote:

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I have a demag cassette from tdk this is simply an oscillator withe a small
button cell and a microswitch behind the coil that pusheds up to the head
when play is pressed. it is designed to tail off slowly.
Not sure what frequency it uses.



** Don't you hear a sound via your speakers when it operates ??

I would be expecting a damn loud one.


Could this advert merely be incorrectly labelled?



** Nope, it's clearly a supply frequency de-magnetiser with tapering output.

Likely it would do a good job on a cassette tape or small steel objects.



..... Phil
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Old November 9th 17, 10:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article , Iain
wrote:

This same instructor, a serious and rather quiet chap, had a wonderful
sense of humour. He once told an assistant in the lift, who was carrying
a box containing a 2" 24-track tape that the lift compartment, made
from sheet steel, lacked a Faraday cage, so he (the assistant) should
keep turning in an anti-clockwise direction all the time the lift was
in motion.


Some months after this, the technical director mentioned that he was
taking some visitors on a studio tour, and shared a lift with a very
courteous young fellow carry a multitrack tape, who kept turning in
circles in front of them.


I'm now wondering if he was assuming the lift was rising/falling at a
relativistic velocity. That might have made a Faraday cage relevant to
magnetic field. But I have my doubts anyone on Earth would then get a
chance to check the tapes later on. 8-]

Jim

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Old November 11th 17, 08:12 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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I wonder if you could use the ally sheet in a cd like a linear motor uses a
rail?
Could launch old CDs into the sky for clay pigeon shooting.
Brian

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Yerwat?
Is this another bit of snake oil?
Give me the green rings any day, you could play hoopla with those.
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Old November 11th 17, 04:18 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:12:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
coalesced the vapors of human experience
into a viable and meaningful comprehension...

I wonder if you could use the ally sheet in a cd like a linear motor uses a
rail?
Could launch old CDs into the sky for clay pigeon shooting.
Brian


If you want novelty, there is a mag-lev turntable.
https://thevinylfactory.com/news/lev...mag-lev-audio/
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Old November 11th 17, 06:32 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Demag CD's really!?...

In article ,
Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:12:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
coalesced the vapors of human experience
into a viable and meaningful comprehension...


I wonder if you could use the ally sheet in a cd like a linear motor uses a
rail?
Could launch old CDs into the sky for clay pigeon shooting.
Brian


If you want novelty, there is a mag-lev turntable.
https://thevinylfactory.com/news/lev...mag-lev-audio/


Be fun with a Decca FFSS cart that could pick up hum from anything within
a 100 yards. ;-)

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