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Linn K20 speaker cable etc.



 
 
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Old September 19th 03, 09:59 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
PJO
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

Hello again guys.

Having just about decided what my direction is regarding my choice of Hi-Fi
I was wondering if the Linn K20 cable is any good or can better be had for
similar wonga?

After following loads of advice here I have decided to go for the Linn
Classik Movie Di with Linn Katan's as front main speakers, Linn Trikan
centre speaker, Linn Sizmik 10 bass unit and Linn Unique rear speakers.

I was initially going to buy a Bose Lifestyle 35 but thankfully came to my
senses after obtaining comments here!

So, is this Linn cable the one I should use.?

BTW, I went over budget by around £1200 and the front speakers are much
bigger than I thought my wife would ever allow but hey.. needs must!

Another question... how far away from mains cables should speaker cables be
run. Just that in one of the corners the speaker cable will cross over a
mains cable at 90 degrees. Should I move the mains cable or will it not
matter? It's no big deal if I have to move it- I'd just chase the wall a
little.

..


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Old September 20th 03, 12:17 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Old Fart at Play
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

PJO wrote:

Hello again guys.

Having just about decided what my direction is regarding my choice of Hi-Fi
I was wondering if the Linn K20 cable is any good or can better be had for
similar wonga?



Yes. It's good.
Yes. Better can be had for less money.

54 * 0.3mm is reasonably thick cable.
Good for 50 metres using the "Quad 5% rule".
Unfortunately the cable is quite widely spaced, which is A BAD THING.
Unfortunately it is four quid a metre, which is A VERY BAD THING.

Why not try some Maplin 79 * 0.3mm cable?
Twenty quid for 100m, which is A GOOD THING.
Closely spaced wires (figure of eight) which is A GOOD THING.

And if you don't like it, you have only wasted the equivalent of
five metres of Linn cable.

Roger.

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Old September 20th 03, 12:17 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Old Fart at Play
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

PJO wrote:

Hello again guys.

Having just about decided what my direction is regarding my choice of Hi-Fi
I was wondering if the Linn K20 cable is any good or can better be had for
similar wonga?



Yes. It's good.
Yes. Better can be had for less money.

54 * 0.3mm is reasonably thick cable.
Good for 50 metres using the "Quad 5% rule".
Unfortunately the cable is quite widely spaced, which is A BAD THING.
Unfortunately it is four quid a metre, which is A VERY BAD THING.

Why not try some Maplin 79 * 0.3mm cable?
Twenty quid for 100m, which is A GOOD THING.
Closely spaced wires (figure of eight) which is A GOOD THING.

And if you don't like it, you have only wasted the equivalent of
five metres of Linn cable.

Roger.

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Old September 20th 03, 09:07 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
PJO
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.


The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me more
cos it's just too cheap.

The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding it
behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to swap out.




"Old Fart at Play" wrote in message
...
PJO wrote:

Hello again guys.

Having just about decided what my direction is regarding my choice of

Hi-Fi
I was wondering if the Linn K20 cable is any good or can better be had

for
similar wonga?



Yes. It's good.
Yes. Better can be had for less money.

54 * 0.3mm is reasonably thick cable.
Good for 50 metres using the "Quad 5% rule".
Unfortunately the cable is quite widely spaced, which is A BAD THING.
Unfortunately it is four quid a metre, which is A VERY BAD THING.

Why not try some Maplin 79 * 0.3mm cable?
Twenty quid for 100m, which is A GOOD THING.
Closely spaced wires (figure of eight) which is A GOOD THING.

And if you don't like it, you have only wasted the equivalent of
five metres of Linn cable.

Roger.



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Old September 20th 03, 09:07 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
PJO
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.


The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me more
cos it's just too cheap.

The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding it
behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to swap out.




"Old Fart at Play" wrote in message
...
PJO wrote:

Hello again guys.

Having just about decided what my direction is regarding my choice of

Hi-Fi
I was wondering if the Linn K20 cable is any good or can better be had

for
similar wonga?



Yes. It's good.
Yes. Better can be had for less money.

54 * 0.3mm is reasonably thick cable.
Good for 50 metres using the "Quad 5% rule".
Unfortunately the cable is quite widely spaced, which is A BAD THING.
Unfortunately it is four quid a metre, which is A VERY BAD THING.

Why not try some Maplin 79 * 0.3mm cable?
Twenty quid for 100m, which is A GOOD THING.
Closely spaced wires (figure of eight) which is A GOOD THING.

And if you don't like it, you have only wasted the equivalent of
five metres of Linn cable.

Roger.



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Old September 20th 03, 10:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:07:10 +0100, "PJO"
wrote:


The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me more
cos it's just too cheap.

The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding it
behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to swap out.


Go with the Maplin. You won't find anything better at the price. If
you are really worried about longevity, install some really heavy
twin-and -earth - the kind used for cooker circuits will be good (but
no better than the Maplin).

The reason why it appears cheap is that it is sold by a shop with a
sense of reality. It is in fact about the right price.

d

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Old September 20th 03, 10:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:07:10 +0100, "PJO"
wrote:


The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me more
cos it's just too cheap.

The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding it
behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to swap out.


Go with the Maplin. You won't find anything better at the price. If
you are really worried about longevity, install some really heavy
twin-and -earth - the kind used for cooker circuits will be good (but
no better than the Maplin).

The reason why it appears cheap is that it is sold by a shop with a
sense of reality. It is in fact about the right price.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old September 20th 03, 10:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

In article ,
PJO wrote:
The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me
more cos it's just too cheap.


You've been got at by the charlatans of the audio business. The mains
cable running round your house to power almost everything is commonly
2.5mm TW&E and costs around 20 quid/100m from a wholesaler. It is rated at
24 amps/230 volts and typically used over far greater runs than speaker
cable.

Speaker cable admittedly has to handle higher frequencies than the 50Hz of
mains, but in practice the insulation on any 'ordinary' mains cable will
allow audio frequencies through without degradation, and a 24 amp current
capability is fine for most amps.

The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding
it behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to
swap out.


A purpose made speaker cable will be more flexible than mains stuff, and
probably rather better looking, but needn't cost the earth. Expensive
audio cables are a *complete con* unless bought purely for their
appearance or mechanical properties.

Everything you listen to, be it radio or CD, uses cables of relatively
low cost in the production stages. Not a 100 quid a meter cable in sight
to handle single channel audio.

Maplin still sell some good stuff among the dross, although the signal to
noise is getting worse.

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old September 20th 03, 10:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

In article ,
PJO wrote:
The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me
more cos it's just too cheap.


You've been got at by the charlatans of the audio business. The mains
cable running round your house to power almost everything is commonly
2.5mm TW&E and costs around 20 quid/100m from a wholesaler. It is rated at
24 amps/230 volts and typically used over far greater runs than speaker
cable.

Speaker cable admittedly has to handle higher frequencies than the 50Hz of
mains, but in practice the insulation on any 'ordinary' mains cable will
allow audio frequencies through without degradation, and a 24 amp current
capability is fine for most amps.

The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding
it behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to
swap out.


A purpose made speaker cable will be more flexible than mains stuff, and
probably rather better looking, but needn't cost the earth. Expensive
audio cables are a *complete con* unless bought purely for their
appearance or mechanical properties.

Everything you listen to, be it radio or CD, uses cables of relatively
low cost in the production stages. Not a 100 quid a meter cable in sight
to handle single channel audio.

Maplin still sell some good stuff among the dross, although the signal to
noise is getting worse.

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old September 20th 03, 11:53 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Old Fart at Play
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Default Linn K20 speaker cable etc.

PJO wrote:

The word "Maplin" worries me! So does £20/100m. In fact that worries me more
cos it's just too cheap.



Try asking Linn who makes their cable and how much they pay for it. :-)


The other thing is that once installed I'm stuck with it as I am hiding it
behind new skirting boards and in walls so it'll be impossible to swap out.



Can you put some trunking in so you can pull new cable through?

If not, add a spare cable, just in case someone puts a nail through one.


Roger.

 




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