Hy!



I'm planning to buy receiver + floorstanding loudspeakers for hi-fi (not
home cinema) purpose.



I would mostly listen to mp3's (all kinds) and radio.



I founded these receivers and loudspeakers:



Receivers:



Kenwood KRF-V4550 DS

Kenwood KRF-V7070D

Yamaha V450 Titan

Yamaha V550 Titan

Yamaha RXV 457

Denon 1705

Harman Kardon 3380



Loudspeakers:



Jamo E570

Jamo E660

Jamo HCS6000 - for home cinema

Celestion F20

Celestion F30

JBL E30

Infinity Primus 250

Vtrek Fenglei No2 - for home cinema

Dali 6

Dali Blue 3003

Dali Blue 5005



What would you reccomend?



What sound card to buy (in range up to 80$)?



I prefer quality of sound over technical possibilities.



Thank you for your answers!

In article , "Uzmi Novce I Bjezi!"
wrote:

I'm planning to buy receiver + floorstanding loudspeakers for hi-fi (not
home cinema) purpose.


I would mostly listen to mp3's (all kinds) and radio.


I prefer quality of sound over technical possibilities.

If you're listening to MP3's and radio, you have no concept of quality
sound.

Any radio shack junk will suit.

Now scram!


Bob

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In article , "Uzmi Novce I Bjezi!"
wrote:

I'm planning to buy receiver + floorstanding loudspeakers for hi-fi (not
home cinema) purpose.


I would mostly listen to mp3's (all kinds) and radio.


I prefer quality of sound over technical possibilities.

If you're listening to MP3's and radio, you have no concept of quality
sound.

Disagree - at least *I* can't tell high bitrate, LAME encoded MP3's from
original source. I doubt many people (if any) could.

Any radio shack junk will suit.

Now scram!

Wow! What a friendly welcome!

Anyway, to the Original Poster - That's quite a list, and I haven't
listened to anything on it. I do have some familiarity with some Yamaha
and Denon receivers and I've found them to be fine - in general I'd
recommend that you go for a receiver with lots of power. 100 wpc should
be just fine.

For speakers, you are going to have to listen to them yourself and see
what you like. I'd personally put as much of your budget to speakers as
you can afford. At the lower price range, I would recommend looking into
Paradigm, Axiom, NHT. For a bit more money PSB, B&W are good brands to
look into.

But, it's your system and you are the one who has to like it - do some
listening first.

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Bill

Uzmi Novce I Bjezi! wrote:
Hy!



I'm planning to buy receiver + floorstanding loudspeakers for hi-fi (not
home cinema) purpose.



I would mostly listen to mp3's (all kinds) and radio.



I founded these receivers and loudspeakers:



Receivers:


snip list of receivers

If it's not home cinema you're after I'd look at a separate amp and
tuner. While the receivers are good value they'll include some stuff you
never use, and you may get better quality using, say, a Cambridge amp
and Denon tuner. Having said this there are plenty of old cheap
receivers on ebay - I bought one for about 50USD and it's fine. Buyer
beware and all that.



Loudspeakers:


snip list of speakers

Not familiar with any of that lot - try and listen to a range if you
can, and don't rely on reviews. It all depends on your room and taste.



What would you reccomend?

Dynaudio speakers, and possibly Mission for a cheaper quick fix. I'd
avoid budget floor standing speakers.



What sound card to buy (in range up to 80$)?


I think you're looking at one of Creative's offerings for that money -
seem fine to me with mp3s.

I'd go for an internal card to avoid the tangle of wires.



I prefer quality of sound over technical possibilities.


Well you should be thinking about a turntable and a valve amplifier then :-)


Thank you for your answers!

Pleasure, best of luck.

Rob

Yeah, I'd like to see the results versus a TDA2030 in a double-blind test.


Martin
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Uzmi Novce I Bjezi! wrote:

What's your budget and what country do you live in?

"Bill Riel" wrote in message
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In article ws.com,
says...
In article , "Uzmi Novce I Bjezi!"
wrote:

I'm planning to buy receiver + floorstanding loudspeakers for hi-fi
(not
home cinema) purpose.


I would mostly listen to mp3's (all kinds) and radio.


I prefer quality of sound over technical possibilities.

If you're listening to MP3's and radio, you have no concept of quality
sound.

Disagree - at least *I* can't tell high bitrate, LAME encoded MP3's from
original source. I doubt many people (if any) could.

Any radio shack junk will suit.

Now scram!

Wow! What a friendly welcome!

It was a forgery.

In rec.audio.opinion Uzmi Novce I Bjezi! wrote:
I'm planning to buy receiver
+ floorstanding loudspeakers for hi-fi (not home cinema) purpose.

Consider also a pair of bookshelf speakers plus a subwoofer. Or a
pair of floorstanding speakers plus a subwoofer. Some of your choices
below need it (2-way floorstand speakers).

I would mostly listen to mp3's (all kinds) and radio.

I founded these receivers and loudspeakers:
Receivers:
Kenwood KRF-V4550 DS
Kenwood KRF-V7070D

I am not familiar with these.

Yamaha V450 Titan
Yamaha V550 Titan
Yamaha RXV 457

The Yamaha RX-V457 is the 2005 model which replaces the RX-V450.
The RX-V550 (now RX-V557) has a bit more features (I don't remember
which). You can go to the Yamaha web page

http://yamaha-hifi.de/cat1.php?&idcat1=1&lang=e

and following the links, compare two or more products. For instance:

http://www.yamaha-online.de/compare.php?idprod=1221

I suggest that you download the operating manuals to check on the
receivers really work, how many inputs, etc..

Note, any receiver on this price range should be good enough (signal to
noise ratio around 100dB, flat frequency response from 20 Hz-20 kHz,
distorsion around 0,06% - 0,08%) that you won't notice differences in
sound quality among them.

BTW, Yamaha makes subwoofers like the YST-SW315:
http://yamaha-hifi.de/products.php?l...&i dprod=1097
or YST-SW515 (new model):
http://yamaha-hifi.de/products.php?l...&i dprod=1204

I think these subwoofers have a good price/quality ratio. Compare the
price of 25 cm subwoofers from the other manufacturers.

Denon 1705
Harman Kardon 3380

Also good brands.

Loudspeakers:

Jamo E570
http://www.jamo.com/Default.asp?ID=3...ductID=166 47
Jamo E660
http://www.jamo.com/Default.asp?ID=3...ductID=168 50

Frequency Range 45Hz - 20kHz

Unlike other speakers below, these are real 3-way speakers so I thought
you might not need a subwoofer, but then I noticed that its woofers are
no bigger than the 2-way designs. Curious.

Jamo HCS6000 - for home cinema

Celestion F20
http://www.celestion.com/products/fseries/f20.html

This is a two-way speaker quite similar to the bookshelf F15.
So it really should be combined with a subwoofer, because it
lacks a bit of low bass:
Frequency Range ( ±2dB ) 60 Hz - 20 kHz

A friend of mine has these speakers but combined with the Celestion
S80 subwoofer:
http://www.celestion.com/products/fseries/s80.html.
He is happy with them.

Celestion F30
http://www.celestion.com/products/fseries/f30.html

This is still a two-way speaker, although it has two bass drivers (which
only gain 5 Hz compared with the F20). So it also should be combined
with a subwoofer.
Frequency Range ( ±2dB ) 55 Hz - 20 kHz

Type 3 way / bass reflex
Tweeter Titanium dome 19 mm (3/4")
Bass/ Midrange 2 x 130 mm (5 1/4") PP-coated driver
Frequency Range ( ±2dB ) 55 Hz - 20 kHz
Crossover frequency 3.5 kHz
Power handling 120 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 90 db
Impedance 8 Ohm
Magnetic Shielding Yes
Weight 13 kg (28.6 lbs)
Dimensions (H x W x D) 900 x 198 x 272 mm
35.4 x 7.8 x 10.7"

JBL E30

Infinity Primus 250

This one ? PRIMUS II 250
http://international.infinitysystems...nguage=ENGLISH

Recommended Amplifier Power 10 - 150 watts
Frequency Response 49Hz - 20kHz *
Sensitivity (2,83 V @ 1m) 92dB
Nominal Impedance 8 ohms
Crossover Frequency 2500Hz; 24dB/Octave
Low-Frequency Driver Dual 130mm CMMD, magnetically shielded
High-Frequency Driver 19mm CMMD, magnetically shielded
Dimensions (H x W x D) 900 x 187 x 300 mm
Weight 16kg

* The web page says 19Hz - 20kHz, and I found that strange, since this
speaker has a construction similar to the Celestion F30 (2x 130mm woofer,
similar overall dimensions) which only goes to 55Hz. But the PDF:

http://international.infinitysystems...musII_Euro.pdf

has 49Hz - 20kHz, so the "19Hz" in the web page must be a typo.

As with the Celestion, I recommend that you combine it with a subwoofer.

Vtrek Fenglei No2 - for home cinema
Dali 6
Dali Blue 3003
http://www.dali.dk/Page.asp?MMID=1&M...6&PID=109#tech

Dali Blue 5005
http://www.dali.dk/Page.asp?MMID=1&M...6&PID=110#tech

These 2 Dali speakers seem similar to the Celestion and Infinity (twin woofers),
but Dali claims more low-end bass:
3003: Frequency Response, ±3dB 42 Hz - 24 kHz
5005: Frequency Response, ±3dB 37 Hz - 25 kHz

What sound card to buy (in range up to 80$)?

Something with a digital output. So the Digital to Analogic conversion
will be done in the receiver, and the sound quality of the card will be
more or less irrelevant.

I prefer quality of sound over technical possibilities.

Note that both for the receivers and reasonable sound cards the differences
should be inaudible.

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Joseph Oberlander said:


Uzmi Novce I Bjezi! wrote:

What's your budget and what country do you live in?


Hungary, can't you tell? ;-)

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"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

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It was a forgery.

Ugh - I hope that's not common around here :-(

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Bill