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Old April 28th 05, 03:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


Here's another little comparison between 3 variants of the *same model*
cartridge.

First question is 'Name That Tune' (I asked Don to pick summat, but he
didn't come back on it, so I chose this) - anybody here got a clue who the
band is? My guess is that *nobody* knows them. Clue - the LP itself is
probably older than a good few here and you would have to be seriously cool
(a long time ago) to know them....!! :-)

At the risk of giving the game away, the sleeve notes give: "There was this
mad flamenco person who looked good with flowers in her teeth." :-)


Here are the raw recordings (2m13s each):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2001.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2002.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2003.mp3


Second question is, quite simply, is one of them *better* than the others?


Next is my first real attempt at matching the sound levels after the
recordings (after recent criticisms here ;-), which was called
'normalising' in Sound Forge??? (Is this the right way to go - fuct if I
know....????)

So, third question is 'Do these sound better for the purposes of a
comparison?' and does any one stand out as 'better than the others?
Cartridge numbers 1, 2 and 3 remain constant throughout, naturally...


http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3


(In case any 'transatlantic types' here want to dismiss the sound *out of
hand* as ****, they best be advised all the boxes give the point of origin
as 'Evanston, Illinois, USA'.... :-)





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Old April 28th 05, 03:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Keith G" wrote in message
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Here's another little comparison between 3 variants of the *same model*
cartridge.




Dawns on me that there are *some* here always looking for the catch, so
here's a pick of the three carts in question:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/threcarts.jpg


(Note the green, grey and black styliylee.... ;-)




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Old April 28th 05, 03:53 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:17:07 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Here's another little comparison between 3 variants of the *same model*
cartridge.

First question is 'Name That Tune' (I asked Don to pick summat, but he
didn't come back on it, so I chose this) - anybody here got a clue who the
band is? My guess is that *nobody* knows them. Clue - the LP itself is
probably older than a good few here and you would have to be seriously cool
(a long time ago) to know them....!! :-)

At the risk of giving the game away, the sleeve notes give: "There was this
mad flamenco person who looked good with flowers in her teeth." :-)


Here are the raw recordings (2m13s each):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2001.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2002.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2003.mp3


Second question is, quite simply, is one of them *better* than the others?


Next is my first real attempt at matching the sound levels after the
recordings (after recent criticisms here ;-), which was called
'normalising' in Sound Forge??? (Is this the right way to go - fuct if I
know....????)

So, third question is 'Do these sound better for the purposes of a
comparison?' and does any one stand out as 'better than the others?
Cartridge numbers 1, 2 and 3 remain constant throughout, naturally...


http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3


(In case any 'transatlantic types' here want to dismiss the sound *out of
hand* as ****, they best be advised all the boxes give the point of origin
as 'Evanston, Illinois, USA'.... :-)





If the other ones were hard to use for checking quality, these are
absolutely impossible! The music is just too confused to hear through
it.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old April 28th 05, 04:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Don Pearce" wrote



If the other ones were hard to use for checking quality, these are
absolutely impossible! The music is just too confused to hear through
it.



Well, I said you pick summat and you didn't get back on it....

What sort of thing do you want? - Name a precise track (or two) and I'll try
to get as close as I can! (I just got time to throw three more tracks up
before teatime and going out afterwards...)

Also, do you want 'normalised' or without....?

(How about a flake as well? :-)





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Old April 28th 05, 04:18 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Keith G" wrote


What sort of thing do you want? - Name a precise track (or two) and I'll
try to get as close as I can!



Lemme give you a hand here and give you some idea - I got Frank Bridge,
Frank Sinatra and Frank Zappa (all on vinyl), but I got no Frank Ifield....

Does that help?




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Old April 28th 05, 04:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nath
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Keith G" wrote in message
.. .

Here's another little comparison between 3 variants of the *same model*
cartridge.

First question is 'Name That Tune' (I asked Don to pick summat, but he
didn't come back on it, so I chose this) - anybody here got a clue who the
band is? My guess is that *nobody* knows them. Clue - the LP itself is
probably older than a good few here and you would have to be seriously
cool (a long time ago) to know them....!! :-)

At the risk of giving the game away, the sleeve notes give: "There was
this mad flamenco person who looked good with flowers in her teeth." :-)


Here are the raw recordings (2m13s each):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2001.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2002.mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ample%2003.mp3


Second question is, quite simply, is one of them *better* than the others?


Next is my first real attempt at matching the sound levels after the
recordings (after recent criticisms here ;-), which was called
'normalising' in Sound Forge??? (Is this the right way to go - fuct if I
know....????)

So, third question is 'Do these sound better for the purposes of a
comparison?' and does any one stand out as 'better than the others?
Cartridge numbers 1, 2 and 3 remain constant throughout, naturally...


http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show...ormalised).mp3


(In case any 'transatlantic types' here want to dismiss the sound *out of
hand* as ****, they best be advised all the boxes give the point of origin
as 'Evanston, Illinois, USA'.... :-)


Encode to OGG and it'll sound better :-)


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Old April 28th 05, 04:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:18:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote


What sort of thing do you want? - Name a precise track (or two) and I'll
try to get as close as I can!



Lemme give you a hand here and give you some idea - I got Frank Bridge,
Frank Sinatra and Frank Zappa (all on vinyl), but I got no Frank Ifield....

Does that help?




A lack of Frank Ifield ALWAYS helps.

All that stuff you are naming is heavily processed, and not great for
assessing carts - there is no real "original" sound you can compare it
to. Some classical - not heavy orchestral - perhaps a chamber
orchestra piece would be good.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old April 28th 05, 05:42 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Don Pearce" wrote


A lack of Frank Ifield ALWAYS helps.



No argument there....


All that stuff you are naming is heavily processed, and not great for
assessing carts - there is no real "original" sound you can compare it
to. Some classical - not heavy orchestral - perhaps a chamber
orchestra piece would be good.



OK, can do - narrow it down a bit and steer me to summat you'll be
comfortable with.

(Missed the boat tonight though....)




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Old April 28th 05, 05:51 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Nath" wrote


Encode to OGG and it'll sound better :-)



OK, webspace constraints notwithstanding, that'll make 'em *dead* handy
won't it!! :-)


Reminds me of this one:


Jock's overdone it on a Saturday night and fallen foul of the Grim Reaper.
He's up at the Pearly Gates making a fuss when a little window is flung back
and the Archangel Gabriel calls down:

"Who is it? Woss all the noise about?"

Jock says "It's me - ah'm deed, let me yin!"

AA Gabriel says "Are you a Scot by any chance?"

Jocks says "Oh aye, that ah *am*!"

AA Gabriel says "Well you can **** off then - we're not cooking porridge for
one!"

:-)




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Old April 28th 05, 06:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nath
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Default OK another little (triple purpose) comparison...


"Keith G" wrote in message
.. .

"Nath" wrote


Encode to OGG and it'll sound better :-)



OK, webspace constraints notwithstanding, that'll make 'em *dead* handy
won't it!! :-)


eh?


 




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