In article , RJH
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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I officially start my early retirement tomorrow. Plan to be 'active'
in my retirement, though... ;-


Congratulations Jim - you've made it!

I think the phrase you were looking for was "past it" rather than "made
it". :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Nick Gorham wrote:

I'd like to know what it is about them that's supposed to make them
so much better.

http://www.mclink.it/com/audiomatica...img/2a3crv.gif

In English?


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Wally wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:


I'd like to know what it is about them that's supposed to make them
so much better.


http://www.mclink.it/com/audiomatica...img/2a3crv.gif


In English?



Its linear.

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Nick Gorham wrote:

[triode o/p]
I'd like to know what it is about them that's supposed to make them
so much better.

http://www.mclink.it/com/audiomatica...img/2a3crv.gif

In English?

Its linear.

Does that mean that everything else isn't linear?


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"Jem Raid" wrote in message
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I would agree that folded horns are not new but then neither are boxes,
folded horns because of the design sound better than boxes. Clear and open
as opposed to muffled and sad when you listen to them side by side :-)

Oh dear!!




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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
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Why don't you ask to visit a speaker maker - somewhere like Spendor or
Harbeth, who make or source all their own parts and designs? The care they
take needs to be seen.

Or ATC and see them winding their own coils.




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"Wally" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

Okay, so what speakers are you *likely* to drive with it? (The
Paladins?)

Hah! You don't believe me then?

Any time you want to post a pic of the Air Scouts next to your other gear,
I'm up for looking at it... ;-)


Er, camera battery needs recharging....





I don't need any more slam/loud - I want to hear this 'triode sound'
for myself.

I wasn't meaning slam-type loud - just loud to the extent that instruments
are at a realistic level, but without the valves going heavily non-linear.


I'm not getting into this 'linearity' thing until I've heard a triode amp
(built, bought, borrowed or blagged) on my own setup.

I've been promised 'holographic' sounds blowing everything else into the
weeds. I already get/have got a superb 'soundstaging', imaging and depth
from a number of PP valve amps (far superior to any SS amp I've ever heard,
including Meridian and Krell amongst many others and I gotta say I'm
curious....




I'm reliably informed by a number of sources that triodes
blow everything else away and that, once heard, nothing else comes
close.

I'd like to know what it is about them that's supposed to make them so
much
better.


Me too - this 'linearity of triodes' for one thing, but the amp I'm hoping
to build has other features (direct coupled and posh/expensive components)
which are supposed to contribute to the sound quality.



... I get 'normal' listening at 9 o'clock on my
20wpc amp, but it starts to lose the plot at about 11 o'clock - IOW,
it starts to bug me before it bugs the neighbours...

Sounds like you need to get the soldering iron out as well then!

My plans are a little more involved than making a more powerful amp. :-)


I'm talking about a 4 watt amp here, Wally......

;-)

Wally wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:

[triode o/p]

I'd like to know what it is about them that's supposed to make them
so much better.


http://www.mclink.it/com/audiomatica...img/2a3crv.gif


In English?


Its linear.


Does that mean that everything else isn't linear?



Not to the same extent no.I am talking about the single device, not that
a amplifier made of them or any other active device can't be linear.

I was replying to the question about was was "supposed to make them so
much better" and IMHO the answer to that is shown in the transfer
curves, and to simplify somewhat, and put it in Englist, I reduced it to
the fact that its linear.

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Nick

Keith G wrote:

Any time you want to post a pic of the Air Scouts next to your other
gear, I'm up for looking at it... ;-)

Er, camera battery needs recharging....

That only takes a few hours - you should have something by this evening...


I'm not getting into this 'linearity' thing until I've heard a triode
amp (built, bought, borrowed or blagged) on my own setup.

I've no doubt that they're very linear while one is within the
largely-linear portion of the curve - my point was that keeping it clean
will restrict the power that it can put out.


I've been promised 'holographic' sounds blowing everything else into
the weeds. I already get/have got a superb 'soundstaging', imaging
and depth from a number of PP valve amps (far superior to any SS amp
I've ever heard, including Meridian and Krell amongst many others and
I gotta say I'm curious....

And I am too.


Me too - this 'linearity of triodes' for one thing, but the amp I'm
hoping to build has other features (direct coupled and posh/expensive
components) which are supposed to contribute to the sound quality.

Quality bits and a good circuit design must surely apply to any amplifier
type - it's the 'magic' of triodes that I'm curious about.


I'm talking about a 4 watt amp here, Wally......

Which has less power than the 20W amp I have at present. So far as I can
tell, the 20W sounds very good at low to medium volume, but not when I want
to crank it up. Years ago, I had a half-decent 40W SS amp, driving the same
speakers, and I got more clean volume than I do at present. As I may have
mentioned in a post a month or three ago, I feel that the speakers are the
next thing to address in terms of improving the sound - I'm not sure that a
super clean 4W amp would make a huge difference until that's done.


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Nick Gorham wrote:

Not to the same extent no.I am talking about the single device, not
that a amplifier made of them or any other active device can't be
linear.

So the thing that makes a triode amp better isn't the fact that the device
itself is linear, but that it takes less additional componentry to make it
operate in a linear fashion compared to other amps/devices?


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