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192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?



 
 
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Old February 15th 04, 06:13 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
sk8erteck
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Not all of my songs are mp3's (most arent) but the few I have sound the same
under the conditions of the club. My point was that none of the patrons are
audiophiles and really don't care if there is a slight change in the sound.

Sorry I am still new to newsgroups and I thought this would get put under
the thread for this and not top posted.


"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
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sk8erteck wrote:
I agree, the acoustics of a club change dramaticlly when there are
200+ people jumping, screaming, talking, dancing, stripping, and
everything else that goes on. I have a few tracks that sound like
crap when the room is empty, but when I play them at night I can only
hear the difference in my headphones, no one on the floor notices.

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you
dont work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if
your version of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance
to it.



With the copious upper-mid/lo-hi crud of mp3s, your patrons may develop
ear-fatigue after 30 minutes or so.

geoff






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Old February 16th 04, 08:53 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?


"Ronnie McKinley" wrote

Anyways .....
http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/show.htm


Interesting Keith. In a novel sort of way. My jazz isn't as purist
as this stuff :) ... more your Diana Krall - Oscar Peterson - Ben
Webster - Sonny Rollins - John Coltrane (but not necessarily
by Coltrane himself) sort of thing.



OK, it's the 'smooth end' of the spectrum somewhat, but I also (dare I say
it?) 'dig' it too.....



But maybe one, or two, modern CD copies for the music collection
wouldn't go amiss.

What more can I say? ;)



Unfortunately, I think the Sheik and Sadie album is possibly the weakest in
the 8 or 9 '504' albums that I've got.

Apart from the fairly obvious 'Anno Domini Effects' on the performers, I
think it also it suffers from being 'played for the mic' - remembering that
although the music almost goes right back to the 20s, the album was actually
cut on 1st August, 1985. - I'd take a bet they still went down very well in
the pubs and clubs they were playing in at that time.

One point I would like to make that I'd also take a bet that not one of
those names on that long list got rich from playing Jazz. If you read/could
read the sleeve notes you would see that these people did stuff like bagging
coffee beans, repairing tellies and plastering to put a crust on the table.
They played Jazz because they wanted to/couldn't help themselves! (I wish I
had lived less than a bus-ride from that stuff in those days!)

I do like 20s jazz (and so do many sur le Continong - Belleville Rendevous?)
and much prefer it to some of the 'lift music' that is getting called 'Jazz'
today. I also prefer the older stuff to be recorded at live performances for
the ambience and 'feel'. Lionel Hampton's brilliant ****ing about wouldn't
be quite the same (or perhaps wouldn't have happenned?) without the audience
appreciation and the venues themselves are almost as interesting as the
music.

(It is also interesting that the modern stuff seems to sound much better
without 'ambience'....???)




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Old February 17th 04, 02:35 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Patrons of a nightclub with a huge sound system generally develop ear
fatigue within minutes of entering -- unless you're talking about a
quiet jazz club...

With the copious upper-mid/lo-hi crud of mp3s, your patrons may develop
ear-fatigue after 30 minutes or so.


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Old February 19th 04, 10:19 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Keith G wrote:
"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:36:52 -0000
"Keith G" wrote:


Vinyl recorded as WAVs is a different ballgame entirely - they are very
'listenable' in their own right and knock the **** out of the equivalent
CDs.


I'll give you 30,000,000,000 UKP if you can substatiate that argument.





OK, my mate 'Shiny Nigel' (known to at least 2 other regular posters here)
says so.

My numbered Swiss Bank Account is 00001234 - I will expect funds to be in
place by close of business Monday next....


You had better pay Keith the money as it can be true. I am lucky that I
can get pleasure out of both formats (I play both formats daily). Keith
demonstrated the vinyl to MP3 to me and the result was very nice
compared to the original CD.

In fact, to raise the stakes a bit, he took one of my CD's and recorded
it to MP3 and then played it back through his valve system - goddam
thing sounded better than the original!
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Old February 19th 04, 10:30 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"MrBitsy" wrote in message


In fact, to raise the stakes a bit, he took one of my CD's and
recorded it to MP3 and then played it back through his valve system -
goddam thing sounded better than the original!


Begging the question as to whether you would have been able to hear a
difference with the valve masking removed.


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Old February 19th 04, 01:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?


"MrBitsy" wrote


You had better pay Keith the money as it can be true. I am lucky that I
can get pleasure out of both formats (I play both formats daily). Keith
demonstrated the vinyl to MP3 to me and the result was very nice
compared to the original CD.

In fact, to raise the stakes a bit, he took one of my CD's and recorded
it to MP3 and then played it back through his valve system - goddam
thing sounded better than the original!




Yep, I much prefer a vinyl-rip CDR to the original CD of the 'same' music!!


 




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