On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:21:44 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:



And why have I never come across this track before? What album is it
on?


Don, it's usually credited to Thomas Dorsey.

Modern Copy at Amazon £11.99

1928-1929 McKinney's Cotton Pickers
Audio CD (19 November, 1996)
Label: Classics
ASIN: B000001NL1

1. Four or Five Times
2. Put It There (Shag Nasty)
3. Crying and Sighing
4. Milenberg Joys
5. Cherry
6. Stop Kidding (Neckbones and Sauerkraut)
7. Nobody's Sweetheart
8. Some Sweet Day
9. Shim-Me-Sha-Wabble
10. Paducah
11. Stardust
12. Birmingham Breakdown
13. Four or Five Times
14. It's Tight Like That
15. There's a Rainbow 'Round My Shoulder
16. It's a Precious Little Thing Called Love
17. Save It, Pretty Mama
18. I've Found a New Baby
19. Will You, Won't You Be My Baby?
20. Beedle Um Bum
21. Do Something
22. Selling That Stuff

I'm on me way!

Ta

d

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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:29:59 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Ronnie McKinley wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:



And why have I never come across this track before? What album is it
on?


Don, it's usually credited to Thomas Dorsey.

Modern Copy at Amazon £11.99

1928-1929 McKinney's Cotton Pickers
Audio CD (19 November, 1996)
Label: Classics
ASIN: B000001NL1



Forget that one, Don

Try ...

Mckinney's Cotton Pickers 1928-1931
Audio CD (4 April, 1998)

Number of Discs:1
Label: Unknown Label
ASIN: B000009NIH
Catalogue Number: CD53220


This one £5.99 ... with a S/H copy £4.99

. Four or five times
2. Milenberg boys
3. Cherry
4. Stop kidding (Neckbones and saurkraut)
5. Nobody's sweetheart
6. Some sweet day
7. Shimme sha wabble
8. It's tight like that
9. It's a precious little thing called love
10. Save it pretty mama
11. I've found a new baby
12. Beedle um bum
13. Plain dirt
14. Gee baby ain't I good to you
15. I'd love it
16. Way I feel today
17. Miss Hannah
18. Peggy
19. Wherever there's a will baby
20. Zonky
21. Baby won't you please come home
22. Cotton picker's scat
23. Rocky road
24. You're driving me crazy
25. Do you believe in love at first sight

Better yet!

Ta again

d

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Ronnie McKinley" wrote

Here's one I looked up ...

------------------------
Shiek and Sadie
Artist George Kid Sheik Colar
Album Title Shiek and Sadie
Date of Release Aug 1, 1985
Genre Jazz
Styles New Orleans Jazz
Label 504

REVIEW: The only reason to acquire this small-label LP is for the
inflexible but appealing rhythmic piano of Sadie Goodson Cola, who
was 84 at the time. The rhythm section (71-year-old bassist Frank
Fields and 81-year-old drummer Milford Dolliole) is not bad either.
The problem is that trumpeter Kid Shiek Cola, who was 76, sounds
106. His playing is constantly faltering, with plenty of wrong
notes; his three vocals (particularly "My Dreams Are Getting All the
Time") are closer to croaking than to singing; he should not have
been recorded at this late date. Fortunately, Sadie Goodson has the
lion's share of the solo space and two features with the trio ("You
Can Depend On Me" and "Don't Get Around Much Anymore"), and her
occasional vocals are tolerable. This release (whose motto, "Real
New Orleans Jazz," should have been "Real Old New Orleans Jazz") is
definitely for specialized tastes.



Heh heh! Told you, didn't I? :-)

OK, I've got this one - I'll post "My Dreams Are Getting Better All The
Time" later on and mebbe "You Can Depend On Me" and "Don't Get Around Much
Anymore" if I think they better demonstrate the above critique. (Gotta go
out now.....)



OK, I obviously didn't get your reply where you metaphorically leap about in
a paroxysm of enthusiasm, uncontrollably squirting body fluids from every
orifice, so just go to my 'Show N Tell' page

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/show.htm

where you will find the three tracks mentioned in the 'review' above plus a
couple of others that I think are well worth a listen. Also a couple of very
moody pix of the front and rear covers to show you what these lovely old
jiffers look like. (Read the back cover, if you can, and see what they got
up to in the 'lean times'!!)

Definitely not to everybody's taste, but I like 'em (in moderation) and
would love to be able to play this sort of stuff myself *NOW* - never mind
when I'm in my 80s!

(Just like you lot, we've just had the Pope, Joanna Lumley, GWB and Michael
Portillo to dinner, but we ****ed 'em off early because we want to watch
'Dark Water' and munch snacks now..... ;-)

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"vibrations" wrote in message
om...
vinyl still offers the best sound in a club environment, in terms of
impact and depth.

Not just in clubs and not to mention texture, tone, detail, depth and
imaging.......

Agreed, it's best not to mention those things and vinyl in the same breath!

i've seen mp3 dudes drop sets after vinyl ones, and
seen the atmosphere vanish and people leave the floor.

Sure, there a lot more things going on than just the vinyl Vs digital
source.

You can flog Joe Public any old crap but you can't make him listen to
it.......

Agreed, many prefer new crap.

mp3 sounds a little thin for big club tracks - just because something
has the same SPL doesn't mean it has the same 'bounce'

True, nothing like the bounce from a tone arm when the turntable is knocked!

TonyP.

I agree, the acoustics of a club change dramaticlly when there are 200+
people jumping, screaming, talking, dancing, stripping, and everything else
that goes on. I have a few tracks that sound like crap when the room is
empty, but when I play them at night I can only hear the difference in my
headphones, no one on the floor notices.

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you dont
work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if your version
of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance to it.


"citronzx" wrote in message
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"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
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In article et,
says...

You all must go to pretty fancy clubs where everyone is quiet and the
music
is played softly enough that you can even understand what the singer is
singing. The acoustics in most clubs combined with the ambient noise
makes
for such a poor listening experience to begin with that I doubt anyone
would
notice the difference between an MP3 and a CD. You might notice a loss
of
bass with some tracks though.

You must go to clubs that have crappy gear. Loud distortion sounds like
loud distortion. You can hear it, just louder. Most of the clubs I
have
been to have sound systems that play clean and loud. So unless you are
really drunk, you can hear the lousy sound.
-------------
Alex


That was pretty much my point, the music's always sounds crappy in a
packed
club. I'm talking about a place where everyone is talking and many are
dancing. Even it the sound system sounds terrific with the place empty,
the
guests will not be able to tell over the ambient noise in a full club.
You
can feel the bass, so you can dance, and you can make out words (if any)
if
you already know the music but that's it. I'm talking about dance music
like: Top 20, R&B, Techno, and maybe some 80's. No one goes to a club for
the quality of the reproduction of the music, you just have to be able to
dance to it.






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"sk8erteck" wrote in message
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Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you dont
work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if your
version
of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance to it.


You said a mouthful.

Every MP3 I have is 128kbps. No one even the DJs that come to my shows don't
know the difference. If you EQ it right and setup the computer right no one
will notice the difference at all.
Besides most of the professional drinkers are so drunk by 9PM that they
wouldn't notice if their seat was on fire let alone a minor musical
fluctuation.

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message
news:szDXb.314480$xy6.1537924@attbi_s02...
"sk8erteck" wrote in message
...

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you dont
work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if your
version
of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance to it.


You said a mouthful.

Dutch wrote:
Every MP3 I have is 128kbps. No one even the DJs that come to my
shows don't know the difference. If you EQ it right and setup the
computer right no one will notice the difference at all.
Besides most of the professional drinkers are so drunk by 9PM that
they wouldn't notice if their seat was on fire let alone a minor
musical fluctuation.

You must have a crap sound system. And EQ cannot fix anything.

sk8erteck wrote:
I agree, the acoustics of a club change dramaticlly when there are
200+ people jumping, screaming, talking, dancing, stripping, and
everything else that goes on. I have a few tracks that sound like
crap when the room is empty, but when I play them at night I can only
hear the difference in my headphones, no one on the floor notices.

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you
dont work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if
your version of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance
to it.


With the copious upper-mid/lo-hi crud of mp3s, your patrons may develop
ear-fatigue after 30 minutes or so.

geoff

Dutch wrote:
Every MP3 I have is 128kbps. No one even the DJs that come to my
shows don't know the difference.

All deaf.


geoff