On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:48:16 +0000, Julian Fowler
wrote:

He's trying to copy an audio cd in order to play it on his hi-fi.
Who cares?

LOL ... he's trying to copy an audio CD ... and doesn't care whether
the result is an accurate copy of the original? ISTR that this thread
started from the OP's request for assistance in the situation where
copies were audibly *different* from the original - if you want the
guarantee of audio equivalence, surely you need to at least aspire to
equivalence in the digital domain!

He was apparently burning data CDs, pushing wav files through a
normaliser, then maybe even converting to MP3? (I lost track the-)

That's not really relevant to whether Nero's disk copy function can
make a copy good enough to sound accurate on playback through the
normal (and necessary) error-correction mechanisms of an audio CD
player.

What do you mean by MP3 Pro? Anyhow, Nero's main function is to burn CDs
from files, whether they are files on your hard drive or a CD. While it
can do other stuff, like convert wavs to Mp3, it's interface is not the
best, and some edits you might be doing in Nero could be causing the
distortion. Ideally, you should have 2 Programs/Applications on your PC,
one to work with the audio files, be it wav, aiff, mp3 etc, and the
other to burn your files to CD. You already have Nero for the burn part.
For working on files, I use CoolEdit (now re-named Audition after being
bought by Adobe) to actually work on the files like make cue points,
adjust EQ, nosie reduction, convert to mp3 etc. There are others like
GOldwave, Protools,and Cakewalk. Once I have done everything I need to
do with the files, I then save and quit CoolEdit and then launch Nero to
put those files on CDR. Inside Nero, I hardly ever edit the files, I
just use Nero to arrange how the files will go onto the CD, like how
many seconds between each track, track order, what type of CD I'm
making, Audio or ISO, and that's it. Then I permanently burn them to CD-R.

With these 2 programs and a CD burner on your PC, you have pretty much
made yourself a digital audio workstation, or DAW. You can even use it
to record analog sources like vinyl and cassettes and make them into CDs.

hth

CD


Informer wrote:
I started a thread about CD recorders which I found very helpful so this is
a follow up. Can anyone guide me as to the optimum settings for using Nero
for copying commercial music CD's. I am plodding through my Nero Express
manual after getting some high frequency distortion on the odd track so I
want to make sure everything is tweaked OK. I am using just the default
settings but in default my output file format is set to MP3 Pro. This
doesn't seem right to me, should I be using wave file as a more appropriate
setting? How many bits should I be using? Anything else I need to think
about.

Once again I thank all the experts out there.

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:48:16 +0000, Julian Fowler
wrote:

He's trying to copy an audio cd in order to play it on his hi-fi.
Who cares?

LOL ... he's trying to copy an audio CD ... and doesn't care whether
the result is an accurate copy of the original? ISTR that this thread
started from the OP's request for assistance in the situation where
copies were audibly *different* from the original - if you want the
guarantee of audio equivalence, surely you need to at least aspire to
equivalence in the digital domain!

He was apparently burning data CDs, pushing wav files through a
normaliser, then maybe even converting to MP3? (I lost track the-)

That's not really relevant to whether Nero's disk copy function can
make a copy good enough to sound accurate on playback through the
normal (and necessary) error-correction mechanisms of an audio CD
player.

In my experience a poor copy will sound like a severely damaged record
with clicks and pops all over the place - the difference using a program
that recognises error flags or reads multiple times is very apparent
without the need for any fancy listening gear. As a previous poster
said, if all your CD's are in pristine condition then this won't matter
but many CD's will have the odd blemish which will be audible with a
program like Nero.

Cheers.

James.