"Informer" wrote in news:401a0b14$0$13352
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"Bruce Tyler" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:32:41 -0000, "Informer"


Ok this is what I do. Insert CD into writer, click on Nero Express,
select
music then audio CD, I then select the tracks. Tracks are shown as
Window
Media Player series 9 files within the Nero Express window. The tracks
are
uploaded where I then insert a blank CDR. I then select the burn speed
and
off I go. Some burns are fine but others have the odd track that sounds
like the volume has been turned up too far on a cheap portable radio and
gives slight distortion at upper frequencies that can only be heard on a
decent Hi-Fi system. In the last recording I did I used Window Media
Player to store the tracks on the hard drive first and copied off the
hard
drive to Nero Express. This was the worst recording so far but I don't
know
if it would have recorded better if I copied straight off the CD. All
music
is taken from the original CD's

Thanks everyone for your comments.




To extract tracks from the original CD, use EAC. www.exactaudiocopy.de

Extract UNcompressed.

Then fire up Nero to burn if you like.

r


--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

In article ,
Informer wrote:
I have been burning music CD's on my computer but get distortion on the
odd track at high frequencies.

You're not using a 'normalize' feature in your software, are you? I've
copied hundreds of CDs on my old Acorn and they all sound exactly like the
original - except for the very rare one which doesn't work at all - due
I'd guess to a faulty blank. I don't see how you can get HF distortion in
if you're staying in digits and not altering the file.

--
*'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:43:57 -0000, "Informer"
wrote:


"Bruce Tyler" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:32:41 -0000, "Informer"


Ok this is what I do. Insert CD into writer, click on Nero Express, select
music then audio CD, I then select the tracks. Tracks are shown as Window
Media Player series 9 files within the Nero Express window. The tracks are
uploaded where I then insert a blank CDR. I then select the burn speed and
off I go. Some burns are fine but others have the odd track that sounds
like the volume has been turned up too far on a cheap portable radio and
gives slight distortion at upper frequencies that can only be heard on a
decent Hi-Fi system. In the last recording I did I used Window Media
Player to store the tracks on the hard drive first and copied off the hard
drive to Nero Express. This was the worst recording so far but I don't know
if it would have recorded better if I copied straight off the CD. All music
is taken from the original CD's

On that basis, the previous poster who stated "Learn to make better
recordings then..." was probably correct ...

One other factor: what media are you using? Its *possible* that your
CD player may be struggling to get accurate audio data from some of
the media you're using. It is, in my experience, unusual to hit the
fairly small area in which a disc plays without skipping or major
audio artifacts but has a noticable degradation in the sound ... it is
possible, though. You might want to try some tests by burning onto
different media, using identical source material, software, settings,
process, etc., and see if there's any audible difference in the
results ...

As at least one other poster has responded, though, the first thing
you need to do is acquire a copy of EAC (which will cost you nothing
more than the suggestion to send a postcard to its author!) and use
that instead of WMP for audio extraction.

HTH
Julian

--
Julian Fowler
julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk

"the dead comedian" wrote in message


Buying a stand alone recorder drastically simplified the transferring
of vinyl & tapes to CD.

Yes, it simplifies out of existence many important capabilities described
below.

I use audio CD-RWs when I need to do some
editing on the computer. If I want to make a duplicate CD, I use the
high speed sync-recording. I've never had a problem with these
dubbed copies, but I still wouldn't use them to burn discs I'm
sending in a trade. It also saves time, since I don't have to rip
all the tracks to the HD first or accidentally burn the disc TAO.

The author is solving a non-existent problem. I copy audio CDs routinely on
my PC. It's a total no-brainer. I click an icon, load the discs, click a
button and the copy happens automatically and properly. The software (EZ CD
5 or 6 or Nero) does the rest.

I believe in specialization. My television set is the best way to
watch TV, my stereo is the best way to listen to music, and my laptop
is the best way to surf the web/email/type a document/use a
spreadsheet. Jack of all trades, master of none.

So speaks the voice of mediocrity and inflexibility. You can't do as good of
a job transcribing other media to CD on stand-alone equipment as you can do
on a PC. For openers, name a CD recorder with the flexible tic and pop
reduction of a PC. Name one that lets you change the loudness of a song
after you've recorded it, but before you burn the CD. Name one that lets you
edit lead-in noise as accurately and precisely.

The statement "My television set is the best way to watch TV" ignores the
popularity and power of the Home Theater PC.

The statement "My stereo is the best way to listen to music" ignores the
popularity of PCs as music players with vast music libraries.

"Informer" wrote in message


System: Rotel RA-02 amplifier, Rotel RCD-02 CD player, Quad 11L
speakers, Pioneer DVD 5100H hard drive/ DVD recorder.

I have been burning music CD's on my computer but get distortion on
the odd track at high frequencies.

How does it feel to be the modern equivalent of the villiage idiot?
Literally millions of people burn CDs on their computer without encountering
this kind of problem. Some of these people are literally kids.

I have tried burning at various
speeds and using various makes of discs but get no improvement. I
have now decided to buy a purpose built stand-alone hi-fi CD copier
and wonder if anyone has used them.

Given the 100's of entirely adequate copies of CDs that I've made with a PC,
I can't imagine why a person would do it any other way unless extremely high
volumes were needed, and you wanted to burn many copies at a time.

In article ,
the dead comedian wrote:
I believe in specialization. My television set is the best way to watch
TV, my stereo is the best way to listen to music, and my laptop is the
best way to surf the web/email/type a document/use a spreadsheet. Jack
of all trades, master of none.

If you think your TV is the best way to watch a TV picture, you've never
seen the results the system is capable of.

TV sets are consumer goods built down to a price, with all the compromises
that entails.

Also, why use a grotty little laptop when a desktop is so much superior in
every way - apart from portability?

--
*When cheese gets it's picture taken, what does it say?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Informer" wrote in message


Given the 100's of entirely adequate copies of CDs that I've made with a
PC,
I can't imagine why a person would do it any other way unless extremely
high
volumes were needed, and you wanted to burn many copies at a time.

Convenience largely. If you're just sitting there listening to music and
think 'mmm, copy of that would be nice', you just press a couple of buttons
and it's done. I can use a computer up to 18 hours a day for work related
stuff, and while I (too) *can* use it to copy cds, I find a standalone
'hifi' recorder does what I want without computer bother. Convenience does
cost money, and perhaps that's why you can't understand the reason, although
the OP's justification does seem a little weird.

Rob

"Julian Fowler" wrote

One other factor: what media are you using?


Sorry if I am sounding thick but if you want to know what make of CDR's I am
using then at the moment I am using JVC CDR for audio even though I believe
this audio version makes no difference when recording via a PC. In the past
I have used Maxell CD-R 80 XL-S


As at least one other poster has responded, though, the first thing
you need to do is acquire a copy of EAC (which will cost you nothing
more than the suggestion to send a postcard to its author!) and use
that instead of WMP for audio extraction.


I will get a copy of this now, thanks guys.

"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
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In article ,
Informer wrote:
I have been burning music CD's on my computer but get distortion on the
odd track at high frequencies.

You're not using a 'normalize' feature in your software, are you?

I have no idea. Where would I look?

"Arny Krueger" wrote

How does it feel to be the modern equivalent of the villiage idiot?
Literally millions of people burn CDs on their computer without
encountering
this kind of problem. Some of these people are literally kids.

Not too good at the moment

Question, If using a CD burner gives an identical copy then why am I given a
choice of burn speeds? Is this just dependent on the max speed of the CDR?