On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:47:40 +0000, Fish wrote:

I've seen various favourable reviews around stuff like AVI integrated
amps and ATC or Dynaudio standmount speakers. Are these worth a whirl?

As a very contended owner, I would recommend the ATC Active 10s
together with the ATC CA2 pre-amplifier. These sound excellent at
lower volume levels (but are also capable of playing extremely loud
if required), and are ideally suited to small to medium sized rooms.
If you haven't previously experienced active loudspeakers, you will
be surprised I think at the control, clarity and extremely natural,
unforced reproduction of music that they offer.

http://www.atc.gb.net

If you do select ATC Active 10s, it is also worth investing in a pair of
the following stands, which suit them perfectly:

http://www.partingtonspeakerstands.com/stand_1.htm

--
Anthony Edwards

David wrote:
It's often very difficult to get a system which sounds good at low volumes.
First move might be to get rid of the Dynaudio's and try something along the
lines of the small Spendor
[snip]

Thanks for reply. That one will go down on the list.



Fish

David wrote:
It's often very difficult to get a system which sounds good at low volumes.
First move might be to get rid of the Dynaudio's and try something along the
lines of the small Spendor
[snip]

Thanks for reply. That one will go down on the list.



Fish

Ta tone - now ow do I spell pedant again.....A


Anthony Edwards" wrote in message
The section "3.1 How and why to quote properly" will be most useful in
this case.

Ta tone - now ow do I spell pedant again.....A


Anthony Edwards" wrote in message
The section "3.1 How and why to quote properly" will be most useful in
this case.

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:47:40 +0000, Fish wrote:

I've seen various favourable reviews around stuff like AVI integrated
amps and ATC or Dynaudio standmount speakers. Are these worth a whirl?

As a very contended owner, I would recommend the ATC Active 10s
together with the ATC CA2 pre-amplifier. These sound excellent at
lower volume levels (but are also capable of playing extremely loud
if required), and are ideally suited to small to medium sized rooms.
If you haven't previously experienced active loudspeakers, you will
be surprised I think at the control, clarity and extremely natural,
unforced reproduction of music that they offer.


I would agree with Anthony. I use ATC 20s which work well from "background
muzak" to very loud indeed. They seem to suffer less from disappearing bass
at low volumes than most speakers and ATC in general are simply the most
accurate speakers I've ever heard.

Oh I also use AVI CD player, tuner and amps (though ideally as Anthony has
done, I would suggest active rather than passive). Get yourself down to the
Cornflake shop.

Roy.




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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:47:40 +0000, Fish wrote:

I've seen various favourable reviews around stuff like AVI integrated
amps and ATC or Dynaudio standmount speakers. Are these worth a whirl?

As a very contended owner, I would recommend the ATC Active 10s
together with the ATC CA2 pre-amplifier. These sound excellent at
lower volume levels (but are also capable of playing extremely loud
if required), and are ideally suited to small to medium sized rooms.
If you haven't previously experienced active loudspeakers, you will
be surprised I think at the control, clarity and extremely natural,
unforced reproduction of music that they offer.


I would agree with Anthony. I use ATC 20s which work well from "background
muzak" to very loud indeed. They seem to suffer less from disappearing bass
at low volumes than most speakers and ATC in general are simply the most
accurate speakers I've ever heard.

Oh I also use AVI CD player, tuner and amps (though ideally as Anthony has
done, I would suggest active rather than passive). Get yourself down to the
Cornflake shop.

Roy.




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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:47:40 +0000, Fish wrote:

I'm moving to a smaller house soon and alas my present audio stuff will
need changing for a smaller, more neighbour-friendly set-up.

At present I have a Bryston pre/power combo (250-watter) and a pair of
large Dynaudio floorstanders. Nothing-special CD-player as imho
cd-players
are nothing special.


Sheesh - 250W is enough to cook on.... :-)

No, barely adequate.


Have a look at any mid-price, fairly sensitive, half-decent speakers &
couple them with a little pure class A amp. Valves are nice... (you could
even build your own! I've just built a MOSFET headphone amp that would
scale up quite easily. I bet it only cost me £30 or so if you include
the bits from the "scrap box".) You may be surprised at how little power
you really need; most people can get away with about 3W to 5W per channel
under real-life surroundings.

During the "average" situation maybe. Lets say a symphony orchestra burbling
away steadily. Then comes the climax. One or two huge peak demands. Maybe
several hundred watts. It is the 5W valve amp's inability to cope with peak
requirements without distortion which is it's weakness.

Remember that to double the volume you have
to square the power, so 250W is about twice the volume of a 25W amp, which
in turn is about twice the volume of a 5W amp! The more sensitive your
speakers are, the better.

No. Highly efficient speakers are generally less accurate than "lowish"
efficiency speakers. They tend to become unlinear at high outputs.

Roy.




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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:47:40 +0000, Fish wrote:

I'm moving to a smaller house soon and alas my present audio stuff will
need changing for a smaller, more neighbour-friendly set-up.

At present I have a Bryston pre/power combo (250-watter) and a pair of
large Dynaudio floorstanders. Nothing-special CD-player as imho
cd-players
are nothing special.


Sheesh - 250W is enough to cook on.... :-)

No, barely adequate.


Have a look at any mid-price, fairly sensitive, half-decent speakers &
couple them with a little pure class A amp. Valves are nice... (you could
even build your own! I've just built a MOSFET headphone amp that would
scale up quite easily. I bet it only cost me £30 or so if you include
the bits from the "scrap box".) You may be surprised at how little power
you really need; most people can get away with about 3W to 5W per channel
under real-life surroundings.

During the "average" situation maybe. Lets say a symphony orchestra burbling
away steadily. Then comes the climax. One or two huge peak demands. Maybe
several hundred watts. It is the 5W valve amp's inability to cope with peak
requirements without distortion which is it's weakness.

Remember that to double the volume you have
to square the power, so 250W is about twice the volume of a 25W amp, which
in turn is about twice the volume of a 5W amp! The more sensitive your
speakers are, the better.

No. Highly efficient speakers are generally less accurate than "lowish"
efficiency speakers. They tend to become unlinear at high outputs.

Roy.




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Roy wrote:
[snip]

Thanks for replies. Well, ATC, AVI and Spendor seem warmly suggested. So
I guess the next stop is the Cornflake shop. Had a look at their website
and I see they sell the first two makes.



Fish