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Old December 12th 03, 06:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"RJH" wrote in message
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Hi - I've just bought some speakers, JMLab Chorus 715, marvellous. Anyway,
something in the setup instructions intrigued me - bi-wiring "reduces or
eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding any signal back

to
the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and spoils the sound quality of
the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

I don't bother with biwiring as a rule, but should this cause a rethink?

Rob



People who bi-wire as a rule don't usualy think.
Therefore it will not cause anything.



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Old December 12th 03, 09:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Molton
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:45:30 +0000
Don Pearce wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?


You say the sound quality won't decrease, but my way of thinking is
that every added cable that isn't coaxial is another opportunity for
some clown to wire it in out-of-phase.


Not that it makes any difference to you or I ;-)

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Old December 12th 03, 09:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Molton
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:45:30 +0000
Don Pearce wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?


You say the sound quality won't decrease, but my way of thinking is
that every added cable that isn't coaxial is another opportunity for
some clown to wire it in out-of-phase.


Not that it makes any difference to you or I ;-)

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Old December 12th 03, 10:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?


Excellent synopsis! :-)


My pleasure :-)

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Old December 12th 03, 10:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?


Excellent synopsis! :-)


My pleasure :-)

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Old December 12th 03, 10:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?


Excellent synopsis! :-)


My pleasure :-)



mmm?


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Old December 12th 03, 10:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?


Excellent synopsis! :-)


My pleasure :-)



mmm?


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Old December 12th 03, 11:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Anthony Edwards" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:45:32 -0000, Keith G wrote:

** Unless *you* know different - anybody here prepared to claim that
bi-wiring produces a palpable improvement to a particular speaker/amp

combo?

When I first purchased my B&W Matrix 805V monitor loudspeakers in the
mid-1990s, I used them in single wired mode for a while, leaving the
linking pieces between each set of binding posts in place. There was a
noticeable (although I never tested this under double blind conditions)
difference in sound according to whether the single wired cables were
connected to the "treble" binding posts, or the "bass" binding posts.



Funny you should say that, I'm always careful to use the 'bass' posts
myself - it's a 'time-alignment' thing........ :-)






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Old December 12th 03, 11:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Anthony Edwards" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:45:32 -0000, Keith G wrote:

** Unless *you* know different - anybody here prepared to claim that
bi-wiring produces a palpable improvement to a particular speaker/amp

combo?

When I first purchased my B&W Matrix 805V monitor loudspeakers in the
mid-1990s, I used them in single wired mode for a while, leaving the
linking pieces between each set of binding posts in place. There was a
noticeable (although I never tested this under double blind conditions)
difference in sound according to whether the single wired cables were
connected to the "treble" binding posts, or the "bass" binding posts.



Funny you should say that, I'm always careful to use the 'bass' posts
myself - it's a 'time-alignment' thing........ :-)






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Old December 13th 03, 04:24 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:11:18 +0000, RJH wrote:

Hi - I've just bought some speakers, JMLab Chorus 715, marvellous. Anyway,
something in the setup instructions intrigued me - bi-wiring "reduces or
eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding any signal back to
the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and spoils the sound quality of
the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

I don't bother with biwiring as a rule, but should this cause a rethink?


Some say better, some say no difference, some say worse.
Try it - it's only the cost of a bit of speaker cable! Make decent stands a
priority though. Personally, I have bi-wired a (heavily modified) old pair of
Kef Codas & I *think* they sound better. That's enough for me. It may be
just in my mind, but so what?

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Currently deserting M$ for linux... :-)

 




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