On 23 Jul 2003 01:59:37 -0700, (Pusillanimous
Mcgillitude) wrote:

"Stevie Boy" wrote in message ...


However I read some review where it was considered that longer lengths of
cable were preferable to short!

Please try to learn how to use the word 'to' (it should have been
'too' in your sentence).

Your illiteracy makes you seem like an idiot.

Now THIS is actually funny, whether ironic or not.

d

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Why ? As I said, the placebo effect is well-documented. Every human
being does this, including me. If I'm about to splash out major bucks on
a piece of audio equipment, I'll always do a blind test first as I know
my mind can interfere with my perception of the sound. Picking any
random piece of equipment, everything from the type of paintwork, to the
position of the controls on the surface, the brand name, the weight, the
coloured lights on the front - they can all interfere with your
judgement in ways that you won't be aware of.


I got an Arcam power amp to go with my Arcam integrated. I came home from
the dealer with high expectations. I read reviews that suggested adding a
power amp would make the sound great.

Put it on and thought it sounded worse - how does your placebo effect square
that one?

I got an interconnect because of a fantastic review. Connected and thought
the sound was ****e - how does your placebo effect square that one?

MrBitsy.

In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
You may interpret the expression differently from me. To me an "embedded
component" means some physical electronic doohickey like a resister or
capacitor or summat.

Then you're easily fooled. Whether you add an external capacitor etc or
this is built into the cable it will make no difference whatsoever. Apart
to the price.

--
*Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Stevie Boy in uk.rec.audio:

Yes, it can be laid back, provide more drive, more immediacy, a
'faster' sound, more airy, greater musicality,sterile,sweet, better
leading edge definition...

Quite some claim!

Thankyou :-)

What do you mean by 'provide more drive'? this seems the least likely of
your descriptions, wouldn't that need the cable to transfer energy above
100%? (or else be an active component!)

No it just means that the cable is allowing the amp to control the speakers
better.

If there is so much to distinguish cables, why not select a cable and some
music that particuarly highlights one ef these traits and take Pinkerton
up
on his offer?


Well he insists on 0.1db difference from 20Hz to 20Khz at the speaker
terminals of all cables connected. Rather than just have the cables plonked
on as they otherwise would be.

Plus I am at 1 end of the earth and he is at the other.

Steve

There is a counter effect called the nocebo effect. In medicine it
manifests itself as side-effects associated with the placebo. Maybe---


I think were now being silly arn't we?

Your illiteracy makes you seem like an idiot.

If you cant strape a sentance toogefther abbout the subjekt then bugger of!

STeefe

"Pusillanimous Mcgillitude" wrote in message
om...
"Stevie Boy" wrote in message
...



They all have their own resistance( although I expect this over the
typical
runs to be nominal), inductance, capacitance, outer sheefing,
propogation.

What is 'sheefing'?

Someit U dont know about.

What is 'propogation'?

Same dick wit.

What is 'eb and flo'?

You need to get hold of the lingo man. Have you never heard of txt
messaging?

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:48:31 +0100, "Stevie Boy"
wrote:


There is a counter effect called the nocebo effect. In medicine it
manifests itself as side-effects associated with the placebo. Maybe---


I think were now being silly arn't we?


Look it up - it is real and well documented.

d

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Stevie Boy in uk.rec.audio:

Well he insists on 0.1db difference from 20Hz to 20Khz at the speaker
terminals of all cables connected. Rather than just have the cables
plonked on as they otherwise would be.

I think that's so the manufacturers don't intentionally put an EQ signiture
onto a cable. This could be considered deliberate worsening of their
product in order to give it a distinctive sound, if you think the amp to be
the place to apply an EQ curve.

As I understand, the cable would be tested that none of this cheating was
going on, and then plonked on as usual. It would be very strange for a
cable to fail this test.

Plus I am at 1 end of the earth and he is at the other.

Strange how Britons seem to overplay the size of their country! (unless one
of you is outside the uk) I'd fly long distance to earn $5,000 in a few
hours!

--
Jim H

Well he insists on 0.1db difference from 20Hz to 20Khz at the speaker
terminals of all cables connected. Rather than just have the cables
plonked on as they otherwise would be.

I think that's so the manufacturers don't intentionally put an EQ
signiture
onto a cable.

I'm not sure how they could do this other than manipulating the capacitance
(which is more likely to cause severe roll off) or making the cable have
unusually high or low impedence at certain frequencies which in turn could
easily upset the amplifiers output.

This could be considered deliberate worsening of their
product in order to give it a distinctive sound, if you think the amp to
be
the place to apply an EQ curve.

Yes as far as I can see it that would not be sensible.

As I understand, the cable would be tested that none of this cheating was
going on, and then plonked on as usual.

If that *is* the case then it does seem fair.

Plus I am at 1 end of the earth and he is at the other.

Strange how Britons seem to overplay the size of their country!

It's just a lot of time out and travelling.

(unless one
of you is outside the uk)

No we both reside.

I'd fly long distance to earn $5,000 in a few
hours!


Me too if the $5,000 was guaranteed. But according to the discussions so far
it would seem that the test to pass with flying colours may not be the case.

In the meantime I'm of to buy some Maplin adequate speaker cable tomorrow...
time permitting and since it's a cable adequate for the job so this group
tells me it should not sound imperceptibly different from my Nordost cable
that I use.

All going well (the placebo affect tells me it will be as good as I've been
told it will be, my expectations are high) I will then be able to sell my
Nordost for a tidy sum and then combined with the sale of my CD player I
should be able to upgrade :-) Yippee!

Steve