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tony sayer November 7th 17 08:37 PM

Demag CD's really!?...
 

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp
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Graeme Wall November 7th 17 08:52 PM

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I thought CDs were made of plastic and aluminium and read by light
beams, what's there to magnetise?

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Woody[_4_] November 7th 17 09:05 PM

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
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Are we saying that Rip-Off Russ has got home grown competition?



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Phil Allison[_3_] November 8th 17 02:38 AM

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Graeme Wall wrote:

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I thought CDs were made of plastic and aluminium and read by light
beams, what's there to magnetise?



** Only applies to "heavy metal" tracks on the CD.



...... Phil

[email protected] November 8th 17 05:11 AM

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There will always be this kind of thing.
There is also an LP demsgnetiser,
Obviously not cheap .
Its funny you mention Russ Andrews.
Heard about his Superfuses?
Now, if a dealer sold this kind of thing
You could perhaps audition first.

RJH[_4_] November 8th 17 06:30 AM

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I'm sure I'm going to regret this . . . why does the screenshot show
different waveforms?

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Brian Gaff November 8th 17 07:18 AM

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Yerwat?
Is this another bit of snake oil?
Give me the green rings any day, you could play hoopla with those.
Brian

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Brian Gaff November 8th 17 07:19 AM

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The brains of the marketers I'd imagine.
Brian

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
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I thought CDs were made of plastic and aluminium and read by light beams,
what's there to magnetise?

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Brian Gaff November 8th 17 07:20 AM

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Or perhaps garage?
Brian

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Graeme Wall wrote:

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
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I thought CDs were made of plastic and aluminium and read by light
beams, what's there to magnetise?



** Only applies to "heavy metal" tracks on the CD.



..... Phil




Brian Gaff November 8th 17 07:23 AM

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Many years ago I saw a fuse repair kit being offered in an old magazine. It
seemed to consist of a couple of springs and various bits of fuse wire. You
clipped the clips on the ends and the wire underneath them I understood,
however no concept of fast or slow blow and how much it overstretched the
fuse holders is anyone's guess!
Why bother when any old bit of wire would do... grin.
Brian

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http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
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Are we saying that Rip-Off Russ has got home grown competition?



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Graeme Wall November 8th 17 08:29 AM

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On 08/11/2017 03:38, Phil Allison wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:

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On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I thought CDs were made of plastic and aluminium and read by light
beams, what's there to magnetise?



** Only applies to "heavy metal" tracks on the CD.


Good point!


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Graham.[_4_] November 8th 17 06:49 PM

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On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 07:30:14 +0000, RJH coalesced
the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful
comprehension...

On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I'm sure I'm going to regret this . . . why does the screenshot show
different waveforms?



"We have designed the DM1 with a second demagnetisation cycle at a
different frequency as we find this offers optimal performance. Each
demagnetizing cycle on the DM1 takes approx 10 seconds. "
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Brian Gaff November 9th 17 07:41 AM

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I have a demag cassette from tdk this is simply an oscillator withe a small
button cell and a microswitch behind the coil that pusheds up to the head
when play is pressed. it is designed to tail off slowly.
Not sure what frequency it uses. Could this advert merely be incorrectly
labelled?

Brian

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On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 07:30:14 +0000, RJH coalesced
the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful
comprehension...

On 07/11/2017 21:37, tony sayer wrote:

http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/fidel...emagnetiser---
sacd-xrcd-shmcd-4007-p.asp


I'm sure I'm going to regret this . . . why does the screenshot show
different waveforms?



"We have designed the DM1 with a second demagnetisation cycle at a
different frequency as we find this offers optimal performance. Each
demagnetizing cycle on the DM1 takes approx 10 seconds. "
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Graham.
%Profound_observation%




Iain[_2_] November 9th 17 08:57 AM

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torstai 9. marraskuuta 2017 10.42.03 UTC+2 Brian Gaff kirjoitti:
I have a demag cassette from tdk this is simply an oscillator withe a small
button cell and a microswitch behind the coil that pusheds up to the head
when play is pressed. it is designed to tail off slowly.



Demagnetizers (proper name degaussers) for reel to reel machines
work in a similar way, but are more effective than their cassette
machine counterparts.

The principle is simple: an electric solenoid, or coil, powered
by alternating current, which produces a magnetic field the
strength of which alternately expands and contracts.

With the tape machine switched off, the degausser is gradually
moved into the close proximity of each head in turn
(but not touching it) and gradually pulled away after a few seconds.

All three heads are normally degaussed, (although the erase head
does not require it:-) It is important to degauss the tape lifter
path, and the capstan also.

I remember that one of our instructors used to wipe the end of
the degausser probe with a small piece of chamois leather,
which he then waived mysteriously in the air to allow the magnetism
to fall to the floor:-)) Strangely enough, most of the assistants
followed his example, and did the same thing.

This same instructor, a serious and rather quiet chap, had a wonderful
sense of humour. He once told an assistant in the lift, who was carrying
a box containing a 2" 24-track tape that the lift compartment,
made from sheet steel, lacked a Faraday cage, so he (the assistant)
should keep turning in an anti-clockwise direction all the time
the lift was in motion.

Some months after this, the technical director mentioned that he was
taking some visitors on a studio tour, and shared a lift with a
very courteous young fellow carry a multitrack tape, who kept turning in circles in front of them.

But back to degaussing, after which the tape heads, lift mechanism,
and capstan need to be cleaned with the proper fluid using a
cotton bud (or the same piece of chamois leather from which the
magnetism has been shaken:-)

Degaussing a CD would perhaps involve the same routine, but with a larger and higher quality of chamois leather, available separately from a specialist audio dealer at a very high price :-)

Iain


Phil Allison[_3_] November 9th 17 10:15 AM

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Brian Gaff wrote:

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I have a demag cassette from tdk this is simply an oscillator withe a small
button cell and a microswitch behind the coil that pusheds up to the head
when play is pressed. it is designed to tail off slowly.
Not sure what frequency it uses.



** Don't you hear a sound via your speakers when it operates ??

I would be expecting a damn loud one.


Could this advert merely be incorrectly labelled?



** Nope, it's clearly a supply frequency de-magnetiser with tapering output.

Likely it would do a good job on a cassette tape or small steel objects.



..... Phil

Jim Lesurf[_2_] November 9th 17 10:36 AM

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In article , Iain
wrote:

This same instructor, a serious and rather quiet chap, had a wonderful
sense of humour. He once told an assistant in the lift, who was carrying
a box containing a 2" 24-track tape that the lift compartment, made
from sheet steel, lacked a Faraday cage, so he (the assistant) should
keep turning in an anti-clockwise direction all the time the lift was
in motion.


Some months after this, the technical director mentioned that he was
taking some visitors on a studio tour, and shared a lift with a very
courteous young fellow carry a multitrack tape, who kept turning in
circles in front of them.


I'm now wondering if he was assuming the lift was rising/falling at a
relativistic velocity. That might have made a Faraday cage relevant to
magnetic field. But I have my doubts anyone on Earth would then get a
chance to check the tapes later on. 8-]

Jim

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Brian Gaff November 11th 17 08:12 AM

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I wonder if you could use the ally sheet in a cd like a linear motor uses a
rail?
Could launch old CDs into the sky for clay pigeon shooting.
Brian

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Yerwat?
Is this another bit of snake oil?
Give me the green rings any day, you could play hoopla with those.
Brian

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Graham.[_4_] November 11th 17 04:18 PM

Demag CD's really!?...
 
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:12:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
coalesced the vapors of human experience
into a viable and meaningful comprehension...

I wonder if you could use the ally sheet in a cd like a linear motor uses a
rail?
Could launch old CDs into the sky for clay pigeon shooting.
Brian


If you want novelty, there is a mag-lev turntable.
https://thevinylfactory.com/news/lev...mag-lev-audio/
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Dave Plowman (News) November 11th 17 06:32 PM

Demag CD's really!?...
 
In article ,
Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:12:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
coalesced the vapors of human experience
into a viable and meaningful comprehension...


I wonder if you could use the ally sheet in a cd like a linear motor uses a
rail?
Could launch old CDs into the sky for clay pigeon shooting.
Brian


If you want novelty, there is a mag-lev turntable.
https://thevinylfactory.com/news/lev...mag-lev-audio/


Be fun with a Decca FFSS cart that could pick up hum from anything within
a 100 yards. ;-)

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