Hi Guys.
As my old CD / tape / radio is on its way out, I've just started looking
around for a replacement.

I've been surprised at how limited the options for DAB digital radio seem to
be. I'd really like to get a good micro hifi with digital radio, plus
analogue radio, CD and tape. 40 watts or more.

I came across the "DAB Cube Micro System" from Ministry of Sound, but
haven't had any success in finding any specs for it.

Does anyone know of anything suitable?

Many thanks,
David

David Mellor wrote:
Hi Guys.
As my old CD / tape / radio is on its way out, I've just started
looking around for a replacement.

I've been surprised at how limited the options for DAB digital radio
seem to be. I'd really like to get a good micro hifi with digital
radio, plus analogue radio, CD and tape. 40 watts or more.

I came across the "DAB Cube Micro System" from Ministry of Sound,
but haven't had any success in finding any specs for it.

Does anyone know of anything suitable?

Most people who've heard DAB reckon it's not much cop. It's pretty low
bitrate (64kbps I seem to remember from somewhere), so it's not as good as a
decent FM setup. I'd spend the money on a decent CD / FM / Cassette setup,
rather than fork out a big premium for DAB. Of course, you don't get all the
stations you get on DAB.

I've been surprised at how limited the options for DAB digital radio seem to
be. I'd really like to get a good micro hifi with digital radio, plus analogue
radio, CD and tape. 40 watts or more.

TEAC have added a tri-band DAB tuner as part of their 300-Series range
(TEAC TH-300 DAB Tuner @ around £178.00) which can be added to
other 300-Series separates... Not only do the amp/cd/fm tuner separates
sound good, but they look the dog's danglies too...

As for sound quality, most of the talk stations I get on my Intempo are around
64Kbps, with the music stations ranging from 128Kbps to 160Kbps but I've
yet to experience DAB through a half decent system...

cheers,

Pete



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David Mellor wrote:
Hi Guys.
As my old CD / tape / radio is on its way out, I've just started
looking around for a replacement.

I've been surprised at how limited the options for DAB digital radio
seem to be. I'd really like to get a good micro hifi with digital
radio, plus analogue radio, CD and tape. 40 watts or more.

I came across the "DAB Cube Micro System" from Ministry of Sound,
but haven't had any success in finding any specs for it.

Does anyone know of anything suitable?

Most people who've heard DAB reckon it's not much cop. It's pretty low
bitrate (64kbps I seem to remember from somewhere), so it's not as good as a
decent FM setup. I'd spend the money on a decent CD / FM / Cassette setup,
rather than fork out a big premium for DAB. Of course, you don't get all the
stations you get on DAB.



A sky box or Freeview receiver is a much better platform for digital
reception. DAB I'm afraid has lost all credibility other than a AM
quality radio medium, with the exception of radio 3 but that is being
eroded from time to time.

If you really want to hear good high quality radio then get a half
decent digital satellite receiver without an outboard DAC and tune into
Bayern 4 klassik the audio on there is simply stunning, some of the best
you'll hear especially when they transmit a live broadcast.

Radio and audio quality just as it should be.

Pity the powers that be at the BBC can't do it the same way
--
Tony Sayer

"David Mellor" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys.
As my old CD / tape / radio is on its way out, I've just started looking
around for a replacement.

I've been surprised at how limited the options for DAB digital radio seem
to
be. I'd really like to get a good micro hifi with digital radio, plus
analogue radio, CD and tape. 40 watts or more.

I came across the "DAB Cube Micro System" from Ministry of Sound, but
haven't had any success in finding any specs for it.

Does anyone know of anything suitable?

Many thanks,
David

Out this Summer: Pure Legato - www.pure-digital.co.uk
Some interesting features, but I've only heard a pre-production "untweaked"
model, so don't know about sound.

DAB is a beer. It makes no sound except for a faint pssssh when a can is
opened. What does all this have to do with audio?

Oke

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
A sky box or Freeview receiver is a much better platform for digital
reception.

But will almost certainly require an outside aerial or dish. Not always
convenient.

DAB I'm afraid has lost all credibility other than a AM
quality radio medium,

You must have a good memory if you remember AM of the same quality as DAB.

with the exception of radio 3 but that is being
eroded from time to time.

R4 is fine too.

If you really want to hear good high quality radio then get a half
decent digital satellite receiver without an outboard DAC and tune into
Bayern 4 klassik the audio on there is simply stunning, some of the best
you'll hear especially when they transmit a live broadcast.

Wonder why a live broadcast should be any different?

Radio and audio quality just as it should be.

It depends on the remit. To provide full 'bandwidth' DAB would restrict
the number of stations. Which to many would make it pointless, since it's
purpose is to provide trouble free reception - or better than FM or AM in
this respect.

Pity the powers that be at the BBC can't do it the same way

Not actually just down to the BBC. They don't control frequency allocation.

Just about every radio station is heavily processed before transmission by
any medium. As are the majority of pop CDs. It would seem it's what the
public wants. There obviously isn't the market to cater for those who want
natural sound.

You might be surprised how many even - you'd think - clued up
enthusiasts complain about altering levels between different stations on
both radio and TV. The answer to this long term 'problem' is to squeeze
*everything* up to maximum level. If this suits the great unwashed, why
worry about data rate on DAB?

--
*A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

In article ,
Oke Fireberg wrote:
DAB is a beer. It makes no sound except for a faint pssssh when a can is
opened. What does all this have to do with audio?

You might look at the title of the group. *UK* rec audio

--
*All men are idiots, and I married their King.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Thanks for everyone for your replies. That's been very helpful.

The Freeview option sounds most promising, used with a micro hi-fi with an
aux input.
..
I'd be interested to know why the digital radio quality is better with
freeview than with DAB systems. Is the broadcast of greater bit-rate or is
the digital decoder of better quality? I believe freeview radio and DAB are
two different broadcasts. Actually I remember seeing some Freeview boxes
that also have DAB decoders incorporated.

Many thanks,
David

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Doki
writes


David Mellor wrote:
Hi Guys.
As my old CD / tape / radio is on its way out, I've just started
looking around for a replacement.

I've been surprised at how limited the options for DAB digital radio
seem to be. I'd really like to get a good micro hifi with digital
radio, plus analogue radio, CD and tape. 40 watts or more.

I came across the "DAB Cube Micro System" from Ministry of Sound,
but haven't had any success in finding any specs for it.

Does anyone know of anything suitable?

Most people who've heard DAB reckon it's not much cop. It's pretty low
bitrate (64kbps I seem to remember from somewhere), so it's not as good
as a
decent FM setup. I'd spend the money on a decent CD / FM / Cassette
setup,
rather than fork out a big premium for DAB. Of course, you don't get all
the
stations you get on DAB.



A sky box or Freeview receiver is a much better platform for digital
reception. DAB I'm afraid has lost all credibility other than a AM
quality radio medium, with the exception of radio 3 but that is being
eroded from time to time.

If you really want to hear good high quality radio then get a half
decent digital satellite receiver without an outboard DAC and tune into
Bayern 4 klassik the audio on there is simply stunning, some of the best
you'll hear especially when they transmit a live broadcast.

Radio and audio quality just as it should be.

Pity the powers that be at the BBC can't do it the same way
--
Tony Sayer

Yes, the TEAC tuner previously mentioned is an excellent bit of kit; I have
one replacing an Arcam DAB tuner (blown-up) and a Yamaha T2 FM tuner.