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Old June 17th 04, 09:21 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf
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I am not certain if the following is intended as a reply to an earlier
posting of mine as you do not give a referenced quote to any of my
postings. Can your news program not do this? It would help me if you were
to include quote references when replying.


In article , Andy Evans
wrote:
the caps were ICW with three different thicknesses of film, rated from
150v to 630v. I got them from ICW and they explained in some detail the
manufacturing process and the fact that they were less resonant as the
voltage and sheer size increased. they went from an inch across to the
size of a coffee cup.


That may be their belief. However I still have no idea precisely what they
meant by 'less resonant', nor how they measured this, nor in what
circumstances. Hence I have no idea if what the actual differences may be.


Rating was 47uF. My perception of resonance in the sound was that of
diffuse location of (woodwind) instruments to very precise location of
instruments, using the same track. My perception of resonance agreed
with the manufacturers expectations. My designer chum simply preferred a
more resonant soundstage. I found it less accurate. Euphonics again.


Afraid my comments are as previously. I am happy to accept your are
faithfully and honestly reporting your experience. However nothing in what
you have said gives me any solid ground for knowing if I would agree with
your (or his) conclusions, or that the reasons you describe are the actual
cause of any differences.

To resolve this I'd need to see some measurements of the levels/spectra of
microphonic response, etc, in the actual system and environment. These
would (I hope!) allow me to determine the meanings of more or less
'resonant' in the relevant circumstances.

FWIW I am not personally interested in a 'euphonic' audio system. I would
prefer one that had no audible imperfections, and failing that to make them
as close to un-noticable as possible. Making imperfections 'pleasing' is
acceptable as a fall-back, but to me it is analogous to fitting your house
with rose-tinted windows. May look nice when the view is lousy, but tends
to get in the way when the view is excellent, and tends to make everything
look similar. However this is just my personal approach.

Slainte,

Jim


Slainte,

Jim

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Old June 17th 04, 12:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Kurt Hamster
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:29:47 +0100, Jim Lesurf used
to say...

1) Gardening. (My wife is astonished!) I now have a hoe. ;-


I do hope that you haven't spent your retirement so far watching Jerry
Springer and picking up some Americanisms


I have heard the name 'Jerry Springer', but never seen his show(s). My
impression from what people have said is that they are "emotional wind-up
TV" of the kind that seems to splattered all over channels at times. Not

to
my taste.


**I watched (a tiny part) of my first Jerry Springer Show yesterday. Here's
my very brief impressions:

* The show is unabashadly aimed at the lowest socio-economic group/s in the
US - 'Trailer Trash' is the term, I believe.
* The audience seems to revel in prurient displays by the 'contestents'.
* The audience displays the most disturbing patriotic tendencies, whenever
possible.

I realise that just wasted 15 valuable minutes of my life.



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Old June 17th 04, 01:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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In article ,
Trevor Wilson wrote:
**I watched (a tiny part) of my first Jerry Springer Show yesterday.
Here's my very brief impressions:


* The show is unabashadly aimed at the lowest socio-economic group/s in
the US - 'Trailer Trash' is the term, I believe. * The audience seems to
revel in prurient displays by the 'contestents'. * The audience displays
the most disturbing patriotic tendencies, whenever possible.


I realise that just wasted 15 valuable minutes of my life.


As you would with virtually any daytime TV. And much of the peak time
stuff these days too.

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Old June 17th 04, 03:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:17:19 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:02:12 +0100, Jim Lesurf used
to say...

In article , Kurt Hamster
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:29:47 +0100, Jim Lesurf used
to say...

1) Gardening. (My wife is astonished!) I now have a hoe. ;-


I do hope that you haven't spent your retirement so far watching Jerry
Springer and picking up some Americanisms


I have heard the name 'Jerry Springer', but never seen his show(s). My
impression from what people have said is that they are "emotional wind-up
TV" of the kind that seems to splattered all over channels at times. Not to
my taste.


Be grateful of your ignorance in this case

Hence if what I wrote has anothe meaning in the USA then I'm afraid this is
another example of "Two peoples separated by a common language". :-)


Unfortunately due to the propensity for 'street level' African-Americans
to further corrupt the English language even more than their fellow
countrymen the term "hoe" is now used rather than "whore". Sort of along
the lines of "ask" transmogrifying into "axe".


The sight of Daisy Donovan, in her crystal upper-class English accent,
in the US trying to become a pimp - and accosting young girls, asking
them if they would like to be her hoe will stay with me for some time.

And actually "ask" is transmogrifying into something more like "arks"

The greatest shame of all is that Jerry Springer isn't even American -
he is from North London.

d
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Old June 17th 04, 04:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Kurt Hamster wrote:

Unfortunately due to the propensity for 'street level'
African-Americans to further corrupt the English language even more
than their fellow countrymen the term "hoe" is now used rather than
"whore". Sort of along the lines of "ask" transmogrifying into "axe".


Both corruptions of the english language are highly irritating to a lot of
Americans, including African-Americans.


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Old June 17th 04, 05:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:59:08 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:26:07 +0100, Don Pearce used
to say...

The greatest shame of all is that Jerry Springer isn't even American -
he is from North London.


Your point is...?

Heheheh, asks a Northerner


*******!

d
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Old June 17th 04, 08:51 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fleetie
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"Keith G" wrote
http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/dixons.jpg


That link doesn't work for me.


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Old June 17th 04, 10:33 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Fleetie" wrote in message
news:mvnAc.490$b64.300@newsfe1-win...
"Keith G" wrote
http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/dixons.jpg


That link doesn't work for me.



My webspace is ****ed again - Pipex are on another 'Helpdesk Harvest' I
suspect.....


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Old July 1st 04, 02:57 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Molton
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 01:25:06 +0100
"Wally" wrote:

* People who buy audio equipment, without first evaluating the
product/s deserve all the problems they are likely to encounter.


Why?


Because they're nipples...
 




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