Bi-wiring
 

Sorry for being so dense but how does one do it ?
My monoblocks each have a single pair of speaker outlets, my speakers two
pairs of connecting posts with a bridging strap in place. Do I simply run
double leads from the amp to each separate speaker post and remove the
bridging strap ?
Thanks

Bi-wiring
 

I did it. Because the bridging bits of metal on my speakers weren't very
good, and occasionally you'd only get treble. Bloody swine craming that many
wires into the binding posts on my amp mind.

What a complicated solution to a very simple problem ;-)

Bi-wiring
 

Why do people bi-wire when is makes absolutely no difference to the sound??
I just cant understand it!?! What's the point?

Stew.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
I did it. Because the bridging bits of metal on my speakers weren't very
good, and occasionally you'd only get treble. Bloody swine craming that
many
wires into the binding posts on my amp mind.

What a complicated solution to a very simple problem ;-)

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You got it in one
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:17:04 -0700, "Stephen Judge"
wrote:

Sorry for being so dense but how does one do it ?
My monoblocks each have a single pair of speaker outlets, my speakers two
pairs of connecting posts with a bridging strap in place. Do I simply run
double leads from the amp to each separate speaker post and remove the
bridging strap ?
Thanks

Bi-wiring
 

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:56:15 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article ,
Stewart wrote:
Why do people bi-wire when is makes absolutely no difference to the
sound?? I just cant understand it!?! What's the point?

Perhaps because it provides for others an easy to find conceited position
with which to troll for an argument?

Or perhaps because it provides a means of balancing a system using
different cables for each frequency band or optimising cable choice.
Someone may like the Bass from a cable but thinks the top too brash so
with Bi-wire they use something else for the top.

Since all cables sound the same, that dog don't hunt...........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
No, I've not done a double blind test, I don't need to.

Surely if the difference was so obvious, you'd have no trouble telling in
a proper test?

--
*Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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Bob Latham in uk.rec.audio:

there are only 3 possibilities I can think of..

1) You've not actually listened to any. Opinion based on theory only.
2) There is something substantial wrong with your source or kit.
3) Your hearing is impaired.

How about:

4) I am mistaken

Is that not at least a possibility?

--
Jim H

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:00:51 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:56:15 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article ,
Stewart wrote:
Why do people bi-wire when is makes absolutely no difference to the
sound?? I just cant understand it!?! What's the point?

Perhaps because it provides for others an easy to find conceited position
with which to troll for an argument?

Or perhaps because it provides a means of balancing a system using
different cables for each frequency band or optimising cable choice.
Someone may like the Bass from a cable but thinks the top too brash so
with Bi-wire they use something else for the top.

Since all cables sound the same, that dog don't hunt...........

Well that is rubbish isn't it? To take it to a silly extreme a cotton thin
bell wire of 2ohms/metre would sound the same as QED 79 strand would it?

That's why there is also a pre-condition that levels are matched to
+/- 0.1dB, IOW silly differences in resistance are taken out of the
equation. BTW, two feet of that bell wire *will* sound the same as 20
feet or so of QED 79-strand, for that very reason.

If you think speaker cables at £10-£15 /metre sound the same then there
are only 3 possibilities I can think of..

Actually, I think that QED 79-strand sounds the same as Nordost
Valhalla and all the other silly cables (Kimber, Siltech etc) at
anything up to £5,000 per metre.

1) You've not actually listened to any. Opinion based on theory only.

Wrong.

2) There is something substantial wrong with your source or kit.

Wrong.

3) Your hearing is impaired.

Come round and see if *you* can hear a difference, when you don't
*know* which cable is connected. Or, I can come to your place if
that's more relaxed for you. As has frequently been noted, if you can
actually tell the difgfgerence, I'll give you £1,000.

How about:

4) I have actually compared many cables under controlled conditions,
while you have not, and have an overactive imagination........

Before you offer me the 1k challenge I'm not bothered if you wish to
remain in your "I know it all technically and it can't happen" world or
not.

Oh right, you mean you're not actually interested in reality. Please
note that the 'challenge' has absolutely *nothing* to do with me
'knowing it all technically', it has solely to do with *your* ability
to *hear* a difference.

I recently got a new power amp (Arcam P7) and as I left the shop the guy
threw a bag of cables at me. I ask you to believe (cos I'm not a liar) my
Mrs and I knew nothing of these cables. We tried using all sorts of
combinations of leads with the speakers Bi-amp'd. The two of us after an
hour had a clear preference for what we liked on the bass and something
different for the HF. We found this choice easy to make. I am very sure I
can tell the difference *easily* on my system.

I'm sure that's all true. I'm also sure that it has absolutely
*nothing* to do with the physical world.

No, I've not done a double
blind test, I don't need to.

Be happy in your ignorance...........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 01:23:53 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:01:11 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:56:15 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article ,
Stewart wrote:
Why do people bi-wire when is makes absolutely no difference to the
sound?? I just cant understand it!?! What's the point?

Perhaps because it provides for others an easy to find conceited position
with which to troll for an argument?

Or perhaps because it provides a means of balancing a system using
different cables for each frequency band or optimising cable choice.
Someone may like the Bass from a cable but thinks the top too brash so
with Bi-wire they use something else for the top.

Since all cables sound the same, that dog don't hunt...........

"All"?

All that measure to +/- 0.1 dB at the speaker terminals, yes. 50p a
metre or £2,000 a metre, doesn't matter.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
YMMV. Passive biamping has merits,

Any that are provable, rather than the usual 'even my wife can tell the
difference' ?

active biamping has more of them.

Indeed. Or rather it can well have benefits if properly done.

--
*My designated driver drove me to drink

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn