Just to let everyone know who contributed to my post about my problems with
high frequency distortion when burning CD's on my computer.



I tried tips and tricks suggested here including re-reading my manuals but
nothing really changed so with a heavy heart I went to buy a Sony CD twin
deck copier which came as the recorder of the year for 2003 in What Hi Fi.
This was for sale at Richer Sounds but they were out of stock and after
ringing around it would seem that the Sony was now out of production and no
one had any. I settled for the Philips CDR796 twin deck which broke all my
rules as I like to buy recommended buys but I could not find a single report
in any magazine or on the net.



I picked a really challenging CD to copy that had a woman opera singer on
it. My computer CD burner could never get those really high notes of opera
singers without adding a little distortion so it was with a little
trepidation that I tried the Philips.



I shouldn't have worried, no setting up worries, no manuals to plod through,
just press the copy button and off it went. The result was a perfect copy.



Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:47:56 -0000
"Informer" wrote:

I tried tips and tricks suggested here including re-reading my manuals but
nothing really changed so with a heavy heart I went to buy a Sony CD twin
deck copier

Well its nice to *pretend* you had a good reason to buy it...

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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:25:50 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:47:56 -0000
"Informer" wrote:

I tried tips and tricks suggested here including re-reading my manuals but
nothing really changed so with a heavy heart I went to buy a Sony CD twin
deck copier

Well its nice to *pretend* you had a good reason to buy it...

at least he got that special feeling of pride that comes from having spent
too much.

In article ,
Informer wrote:
I picked a really challenging CD to copy that had a woman opera singer
on it. My computer CD burner could never get those really high notes of
opera singers without adding a little distortion so it was with a little
trepidation that I tried the Philips.



I shouldn't have worried, no setting up worries, no manuals to plod
through, just press the copy button and off it went. The result was a
perfect copy.

Did you try switching off 'normalise' or different software on your
computer? Because if it's introducing distortion it sure ain't doing a one
to one copy...

Did you try simply copying it as data?

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RIP Acorn

"TCS" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:25:50 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:47:56 -0000
"Informer" wrote:

I tried tips and tricks suggested here including re-reading my manuals
but
nothing really changed so with a heavy heart I went to buy a Sony CD
twin
deck copier

Well its nice to *pretend* you had a good reason to buy it...

at least he got that special feeling of pride that comes from having spent
too much.

I think you've done OK here. A lot of people assume a lot about IT use and
users, and I think you were given a rough ride by people who placed
'requisite knowledge' on you. This is after all an audio group, and not an
IT forum.

I am a very experienced pc user (as opposed to technolgy expert) and I
bought one because I wanted one - I use it just like I used to use a
cassette deck. I almost went for the Philips (lot cheaper than the NAD) but
I didn't like the idea of the fan.

You might at some stage revisit the pc - it *shouldn't* do the things you've
described. In the meantime - well done and enjoy!

Rob

"RJH" wrote

I am a very experienced pc user (as opposed to technolgy expert) and I
bought one because I wanted one - I use it just like I used to use a
cassette deck. I almost went for the Philips (lot cheaper than the NAD)
but
I didn't like the idea of the fan.

You might at some stage revisit the pc - it *shouldn't* do the things
you've
described. In the meantime - well done and enjoy!

Rob



Thanks for the kind words Rob. I gave the PC my best shot and while the
recordings were fine for the average Comet and Dixon's home entertainment
system my Hi Fi system pulled some of the track recordings to pieces.
Despite shelling out the readies on the Philips I am quite a happy bunny as
there is no difference between the original and the copy which is all I ever
wanted.

Jeff

"Dave Plowman" wrote


Did you try switching off 'normalise' or different software on your
computer? Because if it's introducing distortion it sure ain't doing a one
to one copy...

Normalise was switched on but I did turn it off as advised. No real
difference.
I have tried three makes of CDR and settled for JVC in the end.

Did you try simply copying it as data?

No only tried Audio CD

Anyway the deed is done now, sometimes simple solutions are best when
technology has defeated me!

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:04:00 -0000, "Informer"
wrote:


Did you try simply copying it as data?

No only tried Audio CD

Anyway the deed is done now, sometimes simple solutions are best when
technology has defeated me!


The simple solution may have been to simply copy the cd in it's
entirety as data, not try to rip the tracks then reconstruct an audio
cd, as I suspect you may have done.

In article ,
Informer wrote:
Anyway the deed is done now, sometimes simple solutions are best when
technology has defeated me!

It's always interesting to find out why it's caused problems, though,
because a computer is quite capable of making perfect clones of a CD. I've
done hundreds on my ancient machine.

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RIP Acorn

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:31:13 +0000, Laurence Payne
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:04:00 -0000, "Informer"
wrote:


Did you try simply copying it as data?

No only tried Audio CD

Anyway the deed is done now, sometimes simple solutions are best when
technology has defeated me!


The simple solution may have been to simply copy the cd in it's
entirety as data, not try to rip the tracks then reconstruct an audio
cd, as I suspect you may have done.

????

Copying an audio CD as data is one of the sure ways of *not* getting
an accurate copy. I fail to see why the following is so difficult:

- use EAC, in secure mode, to extract audio data from CD to .wav files
on HDD
- use EAC or CDRWIN or Nero or Feurio or (insert your preferred
mastering program now) to burn an audio disc from the extracted .wav
files


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