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Audio Snobbery!



 
 
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Old July 18th 03, 11:16 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
citizensband
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Default Audio Snobbery!

I've been reading a great number of threads with considerable interest on
here recently, and I've arrived at the conclusion, the biggest single factor
when buying audio equipment, is the badge placed on the front of it.

Lets take a look at Hi-Fi reviewers who work for magazines, I've read
hundreds of reviews over the years. How many people have they brainwashed?
How many perfectly acceptable pieces of Hi-Fi equipment have they crucified?
What qualifications do these people posses?

An amp that sounds like a tom cat being castrated without an anaesthetic to
them, may sound wonderful to someone else. At the beginning of the year, I
read two reviews on a Sony AV amp, one thought it was the best thing since
sliced bread, the other slated it!

Perhaps a good test for a reviewer would be to give him a listening room and
ten top of the range amplifiers. Let him keep them for a week and listen
until his hearts content. Then bring him back in the room blindfolded and
ask him to identify each amp as it is played back to him randomly. I suspect
the results would be very interesting!

Surely, at the end of the day, buying and listening to Hi-Fi is totally
subjective?

Cheers
tox


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Old July 18th 03, 11:55 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
RobH
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Default Audio Snobbery!


"Julian Fowler" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:16:19 +0100, "citizensband"
wrote:

I've been reading a great number of threads with considerable

interest on
here recently, and I've arrived at the conclusion, the biggest single

factor
when buying audio equipment, is the badge placed on the front of it.


Isn't that true of just about anything that's bought/sold? Skoda's
nice "reverse snobbery" point this out for cars.

Lets take a look at Hi-Fi reviewers who work for magazines, I've read
hundreds of reviews over the years. How many people have they

brainwashed?
How many perfectly acceptable pieces of Hi-Fi equipment have they

crucified?
What qualifications do these people posses?


None at all - what did you expect?

An amp that sounds like a tom cat being castrated without an

anaesthetic to
them, may sound wonderful to someone else. At the beginning of the

year, I
read two reviews on a Sony AV amp, one thought it was the best thing

since
sliced bread, the other slated it!

Perhaps a good test for a reviewer would be to give him a listening

room and
ten top of the range amplifiers. Let him keep them for a week and

listen
until his hearts content. Then bring him back in the room blindfolded

and
ask him to identify each amp as it is played back to him randomly. I

suspect
the results would be very interesting!


Well, if the 10 amps are doing their jobs correctly, then he/she
*shouldn't* be able to tell the difference. Except, of course, amps
(and more particularly those at the high end of the market) are likely
to sound different (by design).

Surely, at the end of the day, buying and listening to Hi-Fi is

totally
subjective?


Yes and no. If you've been following this group you'll have realize
that there are two extreme positions:

* the "I want components that provide me with a sound I like" posse
(including, albeit not exclusively, the vinyl & values brigade).
These folks are (by definition) totally subjective.

* the "I want components that reproduce recorded sound as accurately
as possible" contingent (who will typically be pro-digital /
solid-state and quote specs/measurements). This camp does bring a
degree of objectivity - to someone here, an amplifier that doesn't
colour sound is *by definition* better than one that does.

Of course, most people sit somewhere between these two :-)

and then get killed by the crossfire.



At the end of the day, there's no substitute for listening to music
you like through the system/components you're planning to buy -
preferably in the environment that you're going to end up using them
in.


--
RobH
The future's dim, the future's mono.



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Old July 21st 03, 03:10 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stevie Boy
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Default Audio Snobbery!


"
An amp that sounds like a tom cat being castrated without an anaesthetic

to
them, may sound wonderful to someone else. At the beginning of the year,

I
read two reviews on a Sony AV amp, one thought it was the best thing

since
sliced bread, the other slated it!



Always best just to read a couple of Mags like Hi-Fi news and Hi-Fi+
At least these two (in particular Hi-FI news) back their reviews with some
indepth analysis.

Theres always going to be difference of opinion. Although one may not be
telling the truth!You could say it's competition laws. Or siding on the
manufacturer cause they offer loads of free equipment to review each month.

Perhaps a good test for a reviewer would be to give him a listening room

and
ten top of the range amplifiers. Let him keep them for a week and listen
until his hearts content. Then bring him back in the room blindfolded and
ask him to identify each amp as it is played back to him randomly. I

suspect
the results would be very interesting!


Well nothing like throwing him in at the deep end heh?

Steve



 




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