In article , Dave Plowman
writes
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
A sky box or Freeview receiver is a much better platform for digital
reception.

But will almost certainly require an outside aerial or dish. Not always
convenient.

So will a good FM tuner and don't most people have TV aerials or sat
dishes these days Dave?..

DAB I'm afraid has lost all credibility other than a AM
quality radio medium,

You must have a good memory if you remember AM of the same quality as DAB.

In fact you should Dave, remember 405 line TV and that bandwidth they
used to use?. Some dab is absolute, ****e just listen to it..

with the exception of radio 3 but that is being
eroded from time to time.

R4 is fine too.

Not all the time perhaps your hearing isn't quite what it once was;()

If you really want to hear good high quality radio then get a half
decent digital satellite receiver without an outboard DAC and tune into
Bayern 4 klassik the audio on there is simply stunning, some of the best
you'll hear especially when they transmit a live broadcast.

Wonder why a live broadcast should be any different?

Well the processing and post production nagers haven't been at it

Radio and audio quality just as it should be.

It depends on the remit. To provide full 'bandwidth' DAB would restrict
the number of stations. Which to many would make it pointless, since it's
purpose is to provide trouble free reception - or better than FM or AM in
this respect.

Beg yer pardon guv, but DAB was conceived as a high quality transmission
medium to get around the problems with FM, not end up as some **** poor
excuse for a broadcast service...

Pity the powers that be at the BBC can't do it the same way

Not actually just down to the BBC. They don't control frequency allocation.

No in the great choice debate they have compromised quality over
quantity. Even at satellite transmission frequencies were bandwidth
could be hardly described as scarce they have compromised here using 192
instead of the higher rates they could have used. Remember the BBC isn't
run by engineers anymore, mores the pity

Just about every radio station is heavily processed before transmission by
any medium. As are the majority of pop CDs. It would seem it's what the
public wants. There obviously isn't the market to cater for those who want
natural sound.

Come on Dave, and you an old soundman, the bloody public need educating
if they don't know any different. Alright if they really what to listen
to ****ed hits then let them I want my radio audio to be just so like
the Germans are capable of. Christ sakes just where are we going back up
in the sodding trees?..

You might be surprised how many even - you'd think - clued up
enthusiasts complain about altering levels between different stations on
both radio and TV. The answer to this long term 'problem' is to squeeze
*everything* up to maximum level. If this suits the great unwashed, why
worry about data rate on DAB?

DAB is now a junk service, even the coder is donkeys years out of date.
The whole system is a shadow of what it could have been, even in the
commercial sector OFCOM have let the commercial broadcasters do what
they want, and have allowed tech standards to sink to abysmal levels.

One would have thought that with the passing of time standards and
performance etc would get better not bloody reverse.

Anyway I'm very happy with me SAT radio system so feck dab.

My advice to anyone buying one is to listen to the bloody thing and if
you cant hear any deficiencies, then your in the wrong newsgroup!......

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Tony Sayer