On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:41:58 GMT, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Ian Molton" wrote in message

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?

Excellent synopsis! :-)

My pleasure :-)

The practical downside to biwiring is that it can train people to *hear*
differences that aren't there. Once you get people to listen errrrrr
creatively, there's a ready market for green CD pens, magic oils, fancy
interconnects, the whole nasty ball of gelled snake oil.

I've tried to stay out of this I really have. I know the objectivists will
shoot me down but here goes again.

Over the years I've heard of many things to experiment with that I simply
had no understanding of why they could make the slightest difference. Many
things (to my ears) confirmed my sceptic thinking and completely failed to
show any difference to me at all. These included...

Green pens, reversing speaker lead direction, absolute phase. None of
these produced any effect detectable to me.

However, that is not always the case. There are some things that I'm sure
I can hear and one I've proved to myself in a double blind (amp in a
different room to listening panel) though all the others I have not done a
DB test.

The proved one (to me and friends at least) was a mosfet power amp
sounding quite different depending on the object beneath it. I have
written an account of this on the NG before and don't wish to do this
again. I have no explanation as to why it sounded different but it did and
it was not subtle either.

I'm also absolutely sure that the two sets of speaker leads I'm using on
my speakers ATM sound different. Some of you may say that if that is the
case, then at least one must have unacceptable levels of RCL and I do have
an electronics background and can see why they say this.

I don't have either an inductance or a capacitance meter but my Fluke DMM
shows nothing significant in resistance terms about the cables. One cable
is a figure of 8 construction (QED XTUBE XT350) and the other is simply
lightly twisted (Chord Odyssey).

Okay so bare with me that they sound different for now. Yes Stewart, I
know that dog don't bark!!! The one QED has the better bass and the other
has the better HF so you can guess how they are connected.

My amplifier has not blown up in the last 6 months (probably will now)
that I've been doing this and I prefer the sound. I don't really care why
or how. If I enjoy the sound more then that's it. It doesn't really matter
if its in my head, an unknown effect or a particular combination of RCL.
My HiFi is for music enjoyment, not a science paper.

If I was going to buy a speaker I would listen and buy what I liked would
I not? So why should I not do the same with cables, provided they don't
destroy the amp even if they do have high resistance or something?

I for one do not believe science knows everything there is to know about
anything. Science is just the tested best theory of the day, it is not a
truth.


Cheers,

Bob.

Great Bob! If it sounds good then it sounds good, wether the
scientists approve or not.

My personal expenice is that Bi-Wiring my Tannoys to my Denon AMP made
a MASSIVE difference. Much clearer mid and treble and tighter base.

Would always TRY bi-wiring speakers to see if a difference can be
heard. I do not believe that a blanket statement of bi-wiring makes no
difference or bi-wiring will always sound better us true. I believe
that like most things in a home cinema set-up its depends on all sorts
of factors not limited to but including the type of cable, speakers,
amp and room layout.